Can you drink Winny?

[pitbullrocco]

LOL

nah, j/k, but i'm planning my next cycle and want you killers to check it out:

weeks
1-4 dbol up to 40/day
1-12 Sust 300/week
1-12 Test E 250/week
1-10 Deca 200/week
1-10 EQ 400/week
9-12 Win up to 50/day

pct will be hcg, clomid, standard protocols....and i have nolva on hand (doesn't mean i'll use it, but its here).....also happen to have letro, aromasin and AIFM left over for all my AI needs....

deca is in there for joint relief it provides me.....i like mixing sus and test e, don't ask why.....reason EQ is low and short b/c its my first go around adding it in a cycle.....goals to gain 20lbs.....albeit conservative thinking....

so the way my concentrations add up, it will be 2.5 cc shots twice a week....enough to rape my thighs and delts

read it and weep weepers

 

[gautho]

I would stagger the EQ and Deca. Like Eq for 1-12 and deca from wk 6-12

 

[pitbullrocco]

probably a good call.....but why?

what about eq 1-12 and deca 4-10? would like to have a few more weeks of test after ending the deca......

 

[Illuminati]

probably a good call.....but why?

what about eq 1-12 and deca 4-10? would like to have a few more weeks of test after ending the deca......

why don't you just pick one or the other? since you have already ran Deca, drop it, and give EQ a try. Just a thought...

 

[gautho]

probably a good call.....but why?

what about eq 1-12 and deca 4-10? would like to have a few more weeks of test after ending the deca......

sounds good. Helps with receptor downgrade by introducing a new compound at different intervals.

 

[pitbullrocco]

just like the deca for joint lube....but subbing is def a thought, thx illum

i thought receptor downgrade was a myth..........

 

[gautho]

just like the deca for joint lube....but subbing is def a thought, thx illum

i thought receptor downgrade was a myth..........

Maybe? But i'm not totally convinced about that. You may also end up wanting to extend your eq because myself and many others notice that you start reaping the eq benefits after week 8.

 

[immortalis]

Maybe? But i'm not totally convinced about that. You may also end up wanting to extend your eq because myself and many others notice that you start reaping the eq benefits after week 8.

yeah, seems to me that I dont notice anything on EQ till week7 or after.

 

[gautho]

yeah, seems to me that I dont notice anything on EQ till week7 or after.

Immortalis, you think we could change that about eq if we frontloaded heavy for first few weeks?

 

[pitbullrocco]

right right....am aware of that.....

ah, the dilemma of only wanting to do a 12er, yet wanting to try EQ.....oh, i also have a slight anxiety problem, so was thinking of that too.....but if alls good, then i'll just do that.....ok, you've convinced me dammit.....i'll double my EQ order for the extension......

appreciate the suggestions.....k all around

 

[pitbullrocco]

Immortalis, you think we could change that about eq if we frontloaded heavy for first few weeks?

thought about that too.....i've heard horror stories of anxiety attacks in that regard.....but its a thought

 

[Illuminati]

just like the deca for joint lube....but subbing is def a thought, thx illum

i thought receptor downgrade was a myth..........

understand now. Deca is great for joint relief. shit, I use it to relief the pain I get from my slipped disk! if you are going to use it for joint relief, then run it the whole cycle at a low dosage like you had planned. your cycle makes alot more sense now. Looks good. Do you plan on starting your PCT (as far as the clomid) on week 13?

 

[gautho]

thought about that too.....i've heard horror stories of anxiety attacks in that regard.....but its a thought

I never had that type of problem with eq. However, Tren can get me a little ancy, but no horror stories. The only time i get horrified is when my supply gets low.

 

[pitbullrocco]

understand now. Deca is great for joint relief. shit, I use it to relief the pain I get from my slipped disk! if you are going to use it for joint relief, then run it the whole cycle at a low dosage like you had planned. your cycle makes alot more sense now. Looks good. Do you plan on starting your PCT (as far as the clomid) on week 13?

no, as written, the clomid won't start until at least 2 weeks after the last test shots.....so i may run winny into week 13

hcg last few weeks of cycle and maybe 3 or 4 good shots in week 13

yeah, i have baaaaad joints.....esp. while on, since my strength is more than my body can take

 

[pitbullrocco]

I never had that type of problem with eq. However, Tren can get me a little ancy, but no horror stories.

was thinking i'd try tren out the next time around.....need to learn more about it though......

The only time i get horrified is when my supply gets low.

i heard that

 

[GymIntensity]

right right....am aware of that.....

ah, the dilemma of only wanting to do a 12er, yet wanting to try EQ.....oh, i also have a slight anxiety problem, so was thinking of that too.....but if alls good, then i'll just do that.....ok, you've convinced me dammit.....i'll double my EQ order for the extension......

appreciate the suggestions.....k all around

Alrite bro here's my 2 mils worth.

First, why not run test prop instead of the sust since you already got test e goin? how often would you shoot the sust? if not everyday the prop would be a waste.

Also, I would run the winny say 9 - 14, so you can harden up a little extra while the test is moving out of your system, and then start PCT a week after you stop the winny. just my suggestion.

As far as EQ, ive never had anxiety probs, but with EQ at 400mg I got "medium" cases of anxiety from weeks 4 to about 8. after 8 it seemed to slow down alot and eventually not have them at all. And I made the majority of my EQ gains weeks 8 thru 12 but still gaining now on week 14. 14 will be as long as i'm running it tho. gluck bro

 

[Ulter]

Receptor down regulation is a myth.

I don't see your goals there. Did you post them?
Mixing sust and TE is not the best way to use test. Your blood levels will be roller coastering for a while.

I like the idea of more eq. But if you're going to use deca you might as well use 300mg so you get some growth out of it. Your sides at 300 will be the same as 200.

You should do very well with that, good luck

 

[pitbullrocco]

Alrite bro here's my 2 mils worth.

First, why not run test prop instead of the sust since you already got test e goin? how often would you shoot the sust? if not everyday the prop would be a waste.

Also, I would run the winny say 9 - 14, so you can harden up a little extra while the test is moving out of your system, and then start PCT a week after you stop the winny. just my suggestion.

As far as EQ, ive never had anxiety probs, but with EQ at 400mg I got "medium" cases of anxiety from weeks 4 to about 8. after 8 it seemed to slow down alot and eventually not have them at all. And I made the majority of my EQ gains weeks 8 thru 12 but still gaining now on week 14. 14 will be as long as i'm running it tho. gluck bro

well, good idea about the prop.....i wish i could inject every single day, but its just not possible. i actually thought about injecting e3d.....the whole mix....mainly b/c of the sus involved, but also to get more EQ involved.....we'll see

i agree with the winny.....hopefully the deca will still be hanging around in the blood enough to offset the joint ache's i get.....i'll manage that shiz

rock n roll bro...thx for the idears

 

[pitbullrocco]

Receptor down regulation is a myth.

I don't see your goals there. Did you post them?
Mixing sust and TE is not the best way to use test. Your blood levels will be roller coastering for a while.

I like the idea of more eq. But if you're going to use deca you might as well use 300mg so you get some growth out of it. Your sides at 300 will be the same as 200.

You should do very well with that, good luck

hey ult. i just mentioned i wanted at least 20lbs.....got that last cycle, kept 15 solid, so i think i can match.....this time i'm not gonna be so anal about what i eat so much as just eating a shitload....of anything and everything....screw eating lean 24/7

the last cycle i actually started out with sus in the beginning, then switched over to TE with a little overlap....mainly out of convenience, but i believe you about blood levels.....which one do you think would mesh better in this cycle? or would it be just the same situation to do like this (as far as blood levels):
weeks 1-6 sus 500+/week (to get some fast esters going in the beginning)
weeks 7-12 TE 500+/week

?

 

[Illuminati]

no, as written, the clomid won't start until at least 2 weeks after the last test shots.....so i may run winny into week 13

hcg last few weeks of cycle and maybe 3 or 4 good shots in week 13

yeah, i have baaaaad joints.....esp. while on, since my strength is more than my body can take

as you can tell, i'm not very good at reading! I looked at were you had the Deca and EQ going 10 weeks. Figured your sus/test E were the same, (I looked real quick).

 

[pitbullrocco]

damn "figuring"

 

[immortalis]

Immortalis, you think we could change that about eq if we frontloaded heavy for first few weeks?

I dont think so. I started my last cycle with it at 800mg for nearly 15 weeks. I backed my dosage down to 600 shortly after that and I actually thought I noticed improvement. So with me starting at that high of an initial dose, I dont know how much higher you'd want to go to try and "front load". And as Rocco stated, the only time I have really heard of guys experiencing extreme anxiety is at doses close to 1g or higher.

Its a mild enough compound to try without worrying too much about safety tho if you'd like to try I guess.

 

[gautho]

I dont think so. I started my last cycle with it at 800mg for nearly 15 weeks. I backed my dosage down to 600 shortly after that and I actually thought I noticed improvement. So with me starting at that high of an initial dose, I dont know how much higher you'd want to go to try and "front load". And as Rocco stated, the only time I have really heard of guys experiencing extreme anxiety is at doses close to 1g or higher.

Its a mild enough compound to try without worrying too much about safety tho if you'd like to try I guess.

Your right, i wouldn't mine going to maximun 1gram/wk for 3-4 wks, but after that , i'd back off to 700-800mg/wk. I had my blood count checked during an 800mg/wk eq run and i was extremely polycythemic(much higher that normal RBC count). Even though its a mild compound, your rbc count that high is dangerous, can cause stroke and MI's. The viscosity of your blood literally becomes much like a milkshake instead of milk.

 

[pitbullrocco]

Even though its a mild compound, your rbc count that high is dangerous, can cause stroke and MI's. The viscosity of your blood literally becomes much like a milkshake instead of milk.

but i can still drink winny right?

 

[pitbullrocco]

i know AIFM is suppose to be great with dbol.....was wondering if i should touch the letro with this cycle or just for emergency cases only?

or just stick with aromasin/aifm?