can bulking make u diabetic?

[twofiftysixsix]

I am paronoid about diabetes as I have seen what it can do to a person's life. I am wondering is it more of high blood pressure, stress causing it or over use of white flour, sweeteners, white sugar, type thing? I used to be 280lbs 12% bf while one the sauce, and want to go back up there, but naturally at first by means of massive bulking like I used to. One problem is I am paranoid of turnin diabetic eating like a mofo. Can someone with more knowledge/experience help a bro out? Thanks!


stats on sauce:
6'6'' 280 12%

stats off:
6'6'' 250 16%

 

[TylerT]

I've worried about this myself...

 

[The Red Dragon]

Diabetes mellitus (type II adult onset) is usually due to a loss of insulin sensitivity (the effectiveness of insulin action on cell membrane glucose transports). Basically insulin (protein based hormone) is a key to open a doorway (membrane transport channel) so that sugar can to get into the cell, otherwise it won't be able to get in...sugar is too big to diffuse across a cell membrane. If it doesn't get into the cell, it stays in the blood at high concentrations, and this pretty much damages up organs/tissues such as the kidneys/retina etc. When you have type II diabetes, basically your insulin (or gateway keys) are deformed and can no longer open the gateways, the key no longer fits into the door rendering it useless. You DO NOT want this disease, it is incurable and can do a lot of fucking damage onto your system shortening your life and quality of life dramatically...its associated with a lot of problems, from blindness/obesity/kidney failure/cardiovascular disease etc.

It's unlikely to get diabetes if you eat properly and train regularly, and if you hit the sauce, I'm assuming you know what to do on diet/training. There is always a possibility...especially if you're genetically predisposed. It's a chronic disease, it takes a long time to develop and once it takes over, it doesn't go away...so its not something acute that comes and goes.

If you're that worried bulk up on healthy carbs (low glycemic/insulin index + lots of fiber) and get some omega 3s in while avoiding trans/sat fat as best as possible (technically you should always be in the practice of doing this if you want clean gains). Diabetes usually has some genetic predisposition/neonatal nutrition component to it...it's also associated with a life of eating nothing but refined sugars/saturated fat and basically being a fat inactive couch potato (this is not always the case but this is how a lot of it happens...notice recent incidence)...

Unless it runs in your family and you're eating like shit and not training at all, I wouldn't give it too much thought. Plus...you need your insulin sensitivity to keep bodyfat levels low while muscles high right? Don't do a dirty bulk, I don't think calories are calories, they do make a difference at the molecular level for sure as evidenced by the etiology of type II diabetes (eating refined sugars). Just do a clean bulk and get a medical consult if you're really worried about it. You can always find ways to reduce risk factors...chronic diseases must be created by its victim over time...its just slow and insidous. Remember, its unlikely but not impossible...I don't worry about it at all and my grandfather had it.

 

[Big_Joe]

Diabetes mellitus (type II adult onset) is usually due to a loss of insulin sensitivity (the effectiveness of insulin action on cell membrane glucose transports). Basically insulin (protein based hormone) is a key to open a doorway (membrane transport channel) so that sugar can to get into the cell, otherwise it won't be able to get in...sugar is too big to diffuse across a cell membrane. If it doesn't get into the cell, it stays in the blood at high concentrations, and this pretty much damages up organs/tissues such as the kidneys/retina etc. When you have type II diabetes, basically your insulin (or gateway keys) are deformed and can no longer open the gateways, the key no longer fits into the door rendering it useless. You DO NOT want this disease, it is incurable and can do a lot of fucking damage onto your system shortening your life and quality of life dramatically...its associated with a lot of problems, from blindness/obesity/kidney failure/cardiovascular disease etc.

It's unlikely to get diabetes if you eat properly and train regularly, and if you hit the sauce, I'm assuming you know what to do on diet/training. There is always a possibility...especially if you're genetically predisposed. It's a chronic disease, it takes a long time to develop and once it takes over, it doesn't go away...so its not something acute that comes and goes.

If you're that worried bulk up on healthy carbs (low glycemic/insulin index + lots of fiber) and get some omega 3s in while avoiding trans/sat fat as best as possible (technically you should always be in the practice of doing this if you want clean gains). Diabetes usually has some genetic predisposition/neonatal nutrition component to it...it's also associated with a life of eating nothing but refined sugars/saturated fat and basically being a fat inactive couch potato (this is not always the case but this is how a lot of it happens...notice recent incidence)...

Unless it runs in your family and you're eating like shit and not training at all, I wouldn't give it too much thought. Plus...you need your insulin sensitivity to keep bodyfat levels low while muscles high right? Don't do a dirty bulk, I don't think calories are calories, they do make a difference at the molecular level for sure as evidenced by the etiology of type II diabetes (eating refined sugars). Just do a clean bulk and get a medical consult if you're really worried about it. You can always find ways to reduce risk factors...chronic diseases must be created by its victim over time...its just slow and insidous. Remember, its unlikely but not impossible...I don't worry about it at all and my grandfather had it.

This is a good post but there are other ways to get type 2 diabetes. I have it from chemo therapy. It's a very common problem if you live through the chemo. None of the diabetes drugs work for me. I have even taken 160 units of insulin, along with taking glyburide and metformin, with no effect. The only thing that works is exercise. It's not uncommon for me to wake up at four in the morning and feel in my body that my glucose is high, you can tell without a meter after awhile of having the disease. So I get up and run on the treadmill. This always drops my glucose to normal levels.

Death It's the great motivator.

 

[Chromeanator]

This looks like a good place for my first post. I've had type I diabetes for 11 years now and take 10-12 shots a day....everyday. I have heard many diabetics refer to it as the most miserable existence known and for the most part I have to agree. To answer your question I would suggest a random checking of your blood sugar like once a week after meals to see how it does. With type II your body is running on a balance system and when you surpass the balance with your body weight then it throws your system for a loop and it can not keep up with the demand. If you begin to see a rise in blood sugar levels then you know your reaching the peak of what your body can handle and to fix this drop off some of the weight.

The most common problem I've seen with type II and weight gain is from people that have a couch permantly attached to their ass and cannot spell excercise much less get off their ass and do it.

I would take a good multivitamin loaded with vitamin C and keep up the excercise and weekly monitering. I was told by a Endocrinologist (Diabetic Doc) that mine was brought on by a severe infection in my system from a sinus infection that I neglected to take medicine for until it almost put me in the hospital with pnuemonia. (spl?) 2 months later I started showing the early signs like weight loss, blurred vision, and constant thirst. By the 3rd month a family doctor diagnoised me with type II and started me out with oral medications that finally were having no effect and by the 5th month told me I was type I and introduced me to a lifetime of injections.

Now for the bright side! Insulin is one of the strongest hormones in your body. From the research that I have done anything in your blood is transported into the cells via insulin. I've learned over the years by trial and error that I can find the absorption time of what I take wheter it be injection, powder, or pill and adjust my insulin to cover it and come out with awesome results.

With all that being said the best thing you can do if type II runs in your family is keep up the excercise and moniter your blood sugars and you should be fine.

Good luck.