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LeonK

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what type gains can you expect if you ran test alone or stacked, but eat the same amount of calories thats keeping you a stable weight natural.
 
LeonK said:
what type gains can you expect if you ran test alone or stacked, but eat the same amount of calories thats keeping you a stable weight natural.

Make sure you use at least 500 mgs of test. If you don't increase your calories as you gain muscle, which makes your metabolism increase, you will plateau quickly.
 
Makavelli said:
Make sure you use at least 500 mgs of test. If you don't increase your calories as you gain muscle, which makes your metabolism increase, you will plateau quickly.

good way to explain. need calories to keep growing.
 
i think its more about how much you eat then how much you juice, if ur taking 500 mgs of test but eat like a mofo ull gain more than the guy who runs 750 and eats ok to decent. maybe not as much strength (although even thaat could be close depending on the person's genetics) but weight gain i'd say is mostly bout calories (if you compare cycles that are reasonable)
 
LeonK said:
what type gains can you expect if you ran test alone or stacked, but eat the same amount of calories thats keeping you a stable weight natural.


I have done this before when doing a cutting/lean mass type of cycle. I will start out that way and try to stick to it for at least a few weeks and see what happens. Usually my bodyweight will stay the same but I will see myself getting leaner. I measure my waist line and I can see the inches dropping. I do usually add a bit of protein in later in the cycle to supplement more growth while keeping track of my fat levels by measuring my waist. If my waist size grows then I know its time to cut back. If you are trying to put on mass I wouldnt reccomend keeping calories the same, but if youre looking to cut it is a very slow way to lose fat.
 
maldorf said:
I have done this before when doing a cutting/lean mass type of cycle. I will start out that way and try to stick to it for at least a few weeks and see what happens. Usually my bodyweight will stay the same but I will see myself getting leaner. I measure my waist line and I can see the inches dropping. I do usually add a bit of protein in later in the cycle to supplement more growth while keeping track of my fat levels by measuring my waist. If my waist size grows then I know its time to cut back. If you are trying to put on mass I wouldnt reccomend keeping calories the same, but if youre looking to cut it is a very slow way to lose fat.

If you keep cals the same you will not grow once you reach a certain point. You have to increase cals in order to keep growing. It's basic physiology.
 
Makavelli said:
If you keep cals the same you will not grow once you reach a certain point. You have to increase cals in order to keep growing. It's basic physiology.

Yes, I would say that happens eventually once your bodyfat drops to a certain level. I found that up to that point you just end up losing fat pounds and putting on some limited muscle, but that would depend on your conditioning and diet before you start. I was already taking in more protein than my body needed I suppose and this was going to maintaining bodyfat before the cycle. After I started the cylce, increased protein synsthesis kicked in and the protein started going to muscle instead.
 
maldorf said:
I have done this before when doing a cutting/lean mass type of cycle. I will start out that way and try to stick to it for at least a few weeks and see what happens. Usually my bodyweight will stay the same but I will see myself getting leaner. I measure my waist line and I can see the inches dropping. I do usually add a bit of protein in later in the cycle to supplement more growth while keeping track of my fat levels by measuring my waist. If my waist size grows then I know its time to cut back. If you are trying to put on mass I wouldnt reccomend keeping calories the same, but if youre looking to cut it is a very slow way to lose fat.


I completely agree. The amount of calories you eat determines how much you will weigh. Taking gear without changing your diet will make you somewhat leaner and stronger (at the same weight) but it's much more effective (and cost effective) to increase your calories when you bulk then decrease them when you cut.
 
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