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Caffeine, anti-catabolic or catabolic
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lartinos
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increases cortisol... not good for building muscle.
definately shrinks muscle as does alcohol.
studies have been done on both rats and people.
also drinking caffeine before a workout is foolish unless you are trying to lose weight. but to build muscle makes no sense. speeding up your heartrate while on steroids is extremely risky and will hurt your workout as your rate and BP are already elevated.
your maximum heart rate say is 180. while you are working out either running or weights it increases to say 130- 140 during a heavy set then goes back down. (doing deadlifts it gets very high unless you are half assing them)
now why would you want a heart rate higher during a heavy set? that would only tire you out quicker and hurt your workout. i dont understand it at all.
studies have been done on both rats and people.
also drinking caffeine before a workout is foolish unless you are trying to lose weight. but to build muscle makes no sense. speeding up your heartrate while on steroids is extremely risky and will hurt your workout as your rate and BP are already elevated.
your maximum heart rate say is 180. while you are working out either running or weights it increases to say 130- 140 during a heavy set then goes back down. (doing deadlifts it gets very high unless you are half assing them)
now why would you want a heart rate higher during a heavy set? that would only tire you out quicker and hurt your workout. i dont understand it at all.
because we live in a society where its acceptable to be pilled up all the time.
people want to eat trash and get 4 hours of sleep then pop a caffeine pill and workout. and then they wonder why they aren't getting results.
if you need caffeine for a workout you need to re-evaluate your diet and the amount of sleep you are getting.
cgar1228
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most of the prewkout drinks I like have caffeine in em. sounds counterproductive to drink something that raises cortizol before your workout. guess I gotta finish the NO shotgun and try something else... Anyone have any ideas for no caffeine pre-workout drinks??
right. those companies dont give a hoot about quality products. they just throw some caffeine and sugar and sell it to people and people buy it thinking 'wow this stuff is great, it makes me wake up'
try this instead.
a balanced meal (perhaps some brown rice and veggies?)
3 caps unleashed
4 caps gear
glass of creatine
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ALIN
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It does increase cortisol levels? Is it significant?
ryno9000
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My two cents - no it is not significant. Just because something is detectable in trace amounts in a scientific study does not mean it is going to have a serious impact on lifting. I read in some stupid magazine the other day that "counting calories adds stress, therefore raising cortisol, so don't count calories because you will lose muscle and get fat." I'm paraphrasing, but I mean if you worry about every minute detail that could/could not, then there is no living life. If caffiene helps you workout, go for it. But what do I know - there is always another arguement the other way.
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lartinos
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Amount and duration would determine this IMO.
