Bye bye the shredded JKurz

[JKurz1]

new diet boys....what do u think?:430 Preworkout
30g of protein

(post workout)
630 40g protein with at least 40g of dextrose

730
1 MRP w/ skim. handfull of peanuts, apple

930
1 whole egg scrabled, egg whites to fill 1 cup
3/4 cup oats
1 tb anpb
1 scoop whey

noon
1/2 lb ground beef
1 c brown rice
2c of green vegies

230
6oz chicken, , 250g of cottage cheese, tb peanut butter, scoop of whey

500
1/2lb ground beef,
large salad, 1/2 cup rice

730
large chicken breast, large salad

900 Bedtime
250g cottage cheese, scoop of casein, 3-4 handfulls of nuts.............

 

[Joe Stenson]

1) You should have some carbs before your workout. Liquid ones would be fine, and perhaps optimal.

2) Don't know if it's a big deal, but I personally don't like having fat in my post-workout meal. I know there is none in your shake, but I would take the peanuts out of the meal as well.

3) I know you said you've never counted calories, and clearly it's worked to get you where you are today, but I really think it's beneficial to do so. On that note, "handfuls of peanuts" don't really mean anything to me. Chances are you're going to take a different size handful every time and thus have no consistency. It's pretty anal but hey, you're forking out hundreds of dollars on a cycle, how hard is it to measure out the nuts?

 

[JKurz1]

Fats are not postworkout...they are 1.5 hours later....plenty of time.....as for the carbs, it's going to be rough as I train at 430......maybe gatorade???

 

[Mavy]

Bye bye Shred boy ... Hello dough boy! hahahah .. jokin bro .. .you should be fine with that.

Are you going strictly for mass with this diet? I see you are a big fan of the salads and veggies eh? YOu are probably trying to do a lean gainer, but I always think the calories from salads and veggies, can be more productive if you swaped them for more protien or carbs. Or even EFAs where there are no carbs coming in. They are basically just worthless calories, although they are very healthy for you as far as minerals and anti-oxidants go etc, .. they really are just "carbless" carbs. But .. they are also some kind of a filler or side dish if you will .. which is better than nothing. I usually dont eat them unless trying to cut. Looks alright though bro. I agree ... give your body some more fuel to workout on than just increased aminos from the protien. Why not have some carbs pre-workout, or during?

Mavy

 

[JKurz1]

Damn...first you say I gonna get fat Mavy, then you say replace the veggies with more calorie dense foods......good advice, but I'll keep it like it is. 1-2lb a week is my goal....proper...not this 10lb gains of bloat.............as for carbs preworkout, looks like that is the consensus..........guess I'll have to toss in the gatorade pre or maybe go with an oat shake.....think itll digest fast enough? I have about 15 minutes to the gym....

 

[ThaReal~SC~]

Fats are not postworkout...they are 1.5 hours later....plenty of time.....as for the carbs, it's going to be rough as I train at 430......maybe gatorade???

1.5 hours later you should be eating another SOLID carb/protein meal as your second pwo offering, especially if you are bulking. (even if you were cutting)

1.5 hours is not "plenty of time", and that is still pwo, as anything within 3 hours is still within the body's heightened/increased period of uptake of nutrients. If you've ingested dextrose, chances are your insulin levels are still quite high, and eating fats is not the brightest idea, Joe Stenson was entirely correct in that regard.

Not sure why you asked for thoughts if all you do is shoot down ideas? I see you do this all the time bro, just asking don't get all defensive. I believe it's probably more productive if you actually TRY this diet for a good 4-6 weeks, THEN report what you've seen or not seen and then ask for what would be good to change. No one knows what to change yet, seeing that you have not utilized this stimulus long enough to even have data to manipulate later on down the line. Make sense?

BTW, I am only here to address that idiot SwolenAnal, to which he's bowed out of my challenge, big surprise there. So, my suggestions here are to only help you, but I know you don't really utilize suggestions all that much. I ask that you take my suggestions w/a grain of salt, don't get on the defensive as is common, and try to just take some of the suggestons and implement them. I wouldn't have bothered to type this up if I didn't believe it would help you in your quest.

It's your choice, best of luck to you in whatever you decide to do.

Take it or leave it, it's all good J........

~SC~

 

[NJRipped]

Not a flame bro and I don't have extensive psychological schooling but I think the clinical name for your condition is - crazier than a shithouse rat. You've been wanting to bulk but refuse to eat, refuse to count calories and continue doing cardio all the time. Then you ask for help with your diet and then shoot everyone's ideas down. You need to step away from your diet for a while - just my personal opinion.

 

[JKurz1]

its all good .............I've already started, so we'll see...........I'll see where this takes me and report back..........1.5 hours later I will have exactly what I posted........thanks.

 

[JKurz1]

1.5 hours later you should be eating another SOLID carb/protein meal as your second pwo offering, especially if you are bulking. (even if you were cutting)

1.5 hours is not "plenty of time", and that is still pwo, as anything within 3 hours is still within the body's heightened/increased period of uptake of nutrients. If you've ingested dextrose, chances are your insulin levels are still quite high, and eating fats is not the brightest idea, Joe Stenson was entirely correct in that regard.

Not sure why you asked for thoughts if all you do is shoot down ideas? I see you do this all the time bro, just asking don't get all defensive. I believe it's probably more productive if you actually TRY this diet for a good 4-6 weeks, THEN report what you've seen or not seen and then ask for what would be good to change. No one knows what to change yet, seeing that you have not utilized this stimulus long enough to even have data to manipulate later on down the line. Make sense?

BTW, I am only here to address that idiot SwolenAnal, to which he's bowed out of my challenge, big surprise there. So, my suggestions here are to only help you, but I know you don't really utilize suggestions all that much. I ask that you take my suggestions w/a grain of salt, don't get on the defensive as is common, and try to just take some of the suggestons and implement them. I wouldn't have bothered to type this up if I didn't believe it would help you in your quest.

It's your choice, best of luck to you in whatever you decide to do.

Take it or leave it, it's all good J........

~SC~

Nope, you are absolutely correct with the 1.5 hour window......How about if I change it up for a tuna sandwich on whole wheat and an apple? Better? Or, an MRP and a tuna sandwich?

 

[Joe Stenson]

Nope, you are absolutely correct with the 1.5 hour window......How about if I change it up for a tuna sandwich on whole wheat and an apple? Better? Or, an MRP and a tuna sandwich?

As long as the tuna sandwich doesn't have mayo on it, I would say either of those ideas are good.

 

[mr.cuts]

Not a flame bro and I don't have extensive psychological schooling but I think the clinical name for your condition is - crazier than a shithouse rat. You've been wanting to bulk but refuse to eat, refuse to count calories and continue doing cardio all the time. Then you ask for help with your diet and then shoot everyone's ideas down. You need to step away from your diet for a while - just my personal opinion.

LOL! This guy is hilarious!!!

 

[JKurz1]

As long as the tuna sandwich doesn't have mayo on it, I would say either of those ideas are good.

two good mayo (2g of fat) 2 tbls in 4 tins of tuna, mixed with onions and celery one for the whole week......very little fat.

 

[Joe Stenson]

two good mayo (2g of fat) 2 tbls in 4 tins of tuna, mixed with onions and celery one for the whole week......very little fat.

Sounds good.

And as for the carbs pre-workout, I think Gatorade would be fine.

 

[ArmaniMark]

Wow man that's a lot of food.... Is your frequency of meals the same when you cut up as when you bulk (I think you have like 8 meals on there.... every 2.5 hours it looks like )) ??????????

 

[JKurz1]

new diet boys....what do u think?:430 Preworkout
30g of protein

(post workout)
630 40g protein with at least 40g of dextrose

730
1 MRP w/ skim. handfull of peanuts, apple

930
1 whole egg scrabled, egg whites to fill 1 cup
3/4 cup oats
1 tb anpb
1 scoop whey

noon
1/2 lb ground beef
1 c brown rice
2c of green vegies

230
6oz chicken, , 250g of cottage cheese, tb peanut butter, scoop of whey

500
1/2lb ground beef,
large salad, 1/2 cup rice

730
large chicken breast, large salad

900 Bedtime
250g cottage cheese, scoop of casein, 3-4 handfulls of nuts.............

THanks a ton boys......sincerely.......gatorade prior is the way I'm going.....two quick questions....how would you finagle this on days where I train at 4:30pm instead of 430 AM? Keeping in mind, I have to hit the sack by 9pm (to get up at 4ish)..........like today, I'm training at 430pm, so I've only had a 1/2 cup oats, scoop of whey and a tuna sandwich at 630am.

 

[JKurz1]

How about something like this: on PM traing days and cardio only

500am cardio 3xweek only, else still sleeping

630
1 tuna sandwhich on wheat, soop whey, 1/2 cup oats

930
1 whole egg scrabled, egg whites to fill 1 cup
1/2 - 3/4 cup oats
1 scoop whey
250g of cottage cheese with 1/2 apple

noon
1/2 lb ground beef
1 c brown rice
2c of green vegies

230
1/2 cup oats, , 250g of cottage cheese, tb peanut butter, scoop of whey

430 TRAIN

600
(post workout)
40g protein with at least 40g of dextrose

700
??? Yam? and 6oz chicken OR tuna sandwhich
large salad,

845
l250g of cottage cheese, MRP (myoplex/metrx w/ a banana) 3-4 handfulls of nuts.............OR a Peanut butter and banana sandwhich on wheat????

much thanks and sorry again if I came across as an ass..........

 

[poopmonkey]

You look like a big guy... this diet doesn't seem like enough food. But until you add up the calories/pro/carb/fat, there's really no way to tell.

But just from eyeballing it, doesn't look like enough.
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[JKurz1]

You look like a big guy... this diet doesn't seem like enough food. But until you add up the calories/pro/carb/fat, there's really no way to tell.

But just from eyeballing it, doesn't look like enough.
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thanks....my ? is how I should finagle this on days I train later........

 

[poopmonkey]

The way you have it above looks fine.

 

[JKurz1]

Ok, but what would you have after my PW shake?

 

[Joe Stenson]

Ok, but what would you have after my PW shake?

The same kind of deal as if you had worked out in the morning...protein + carbs, no fat.

 

[brickbatstone]

Fats are not postworkout...they are 1.5 hours later....plenty of time.....as for the carbs, it's going to be rough as I train at 430......maybe gatorade???

Raw uncooked honey.

 

[ProtienFiend]

I got a diet for ya... Whenever youre hungry: Eat.

and whenever youre not hungry: Eat.

 

[chewyxrage]

Looks good jkurz. I wonder what the actual calorie count is. Like some people said it looks a little low....but I think this is the first time I've seen you post BEEF as part of your diet...now we're talking

 

[JKurz1]

Looks good jkurz. I wonder what the actual calorie count is. Like some people said it looks a little low....but I think this is the first time I've seen you post BEEF as part of your diet...now we're talking

thanks brutha

 

[JKurz1]

I am one fat fuck............damn I hate eating!

 

[NJRipped]

Just curious as to your age and what you do for a living?

I am one fat fuck............damn I hate eating!

 

[JKurz1]

28, sole pract.....

 

[NJRipped]

Lawyer, doctor..? What goals are you trying to achieve by forcing yourself to eat?

28, sole pract.....

 

[JKurz1]

Lawyer, doctor..? What goals are you trying to achieve by forcing yourself to eat?

CPA,CFE........IMy goal is to make a competion attempt......Just wanted to take it to the next level and tired of all the "Man, you have the genetics, you could walk on stage right now...." which I kno I couldnt do because I'm not 5% nor am I 245......thats where I need/want to be....just a goal......we'l lsee.

 

[big_lady_golden]

Ok, but what would you have after my PW shake?

how about white rice or sweet potatoe and chicken

 

[chewyxrage]

Let's get an update Jkurz

 

[CaptainBSU91]

Sounds good to me, and kinda appealing acutally.... think this would actually help me possibly cut some... or gain lean muscle while this diet would be eating 10000x cleaner than what I have going on right now in the process of shedding some blub?

-- Rex-a-mus --

 

[JKurz1]

Sounds good to me, and kinda appealing acutally.... think this would actually help me possibly cut some... or gain lean muscle while this diet would be eating 10000x cleaner than what I have going on right now in the process of shedding some blub?

-- Rex-a-mus --

What your diet like bro?

Update - well, things got off to a slow start with my bloodwork being looked at every week and md visits, but I'm back and on track with the diet (actually lost a few pounds), but Feb.1 the madness begins....may have to get a little dirty with this diet a few times a week to catch up on lost ground....I want to cut again to be ready for sum-sum-summmmatime.....