bulking and cutting question

[depressive SP juicer]

ok this is my 13th day on a Sostenon 750mg/wk for 8 wks cycle. how long will it be before i notice any results? ive been injecting a reload in my delts on Sat, Mon and Thurs. i am eating around 3800 cals/day and i will try to increase it to 4000 by next week. after the 8 weeks are up, i am planning on lowering my calories for two weeks till i reach 2000/day then i will start on my cutting cycle using tren (1cc EOD), T3, ECA, adipokinetix and clen (and DNP for 2 weeks if i can find it). is this a good plan or should i addition 250mg of Sust plus some Nova during the cutting phase? Winny and Primo are just too expensive for me, plus they are harded to cross the border with.

 

[Keg6969]

I wouldn't use AS's with DNP it's kind of a waste. YOu are going to lose a lot of your gains. Use DNP alone after a bulking cycle then after use something like I am going Eq, Winny, Anavar, T-3

 

[depressive SP juicer]

ok so DNP w/AS is out. i would use winny and anavar but i live on my own and go to school, so i dont have much cash to spend. anyone else have any suggestions? does it take 4 wks to notice gains in size from sust?

 

[PURE EXTRACT]

Bro it took me friggin 6 weeks to get gains!! I was weighing myself every week, and I skipped a couple of weeks of doing it, next thing I know I'm 193!! So it's not bad. The SUSTANON really filled me out though. I like it. I'm just wondering how much of it I'm going to keep. Hopefully I'll keep more than half. Oh by the way, you're going to think you're Superman in about 3 weeks. You're strength is gonna jump out the roof!! It did for me. I'm benching 315 as max. Just make sure you eat a lot bro. I wasn't eating properly at first and I think that's what prohibited me from gaining weight earlier on. Take in a lot of protein since your receptors can take in twice as much. That's what I read somewhere. Let's see what else...Ginger root extract, I think it's working for me. A few weeks back I read that ginger root help your body absorb more protein. I took it just for the hell of it, just to try it out. It was cheap as hell 11 bucks for 300 caps.

 

[serge]

first off increase your calories while bulking, try 4500-5000cals/day whith lots of protein.

for cutting try running tren at 75mg/ed with some test and arimidex to keep the water off, add t-3, clen to increase the fat burning. use dnp only if you are above 15% body-fat otherwise t-3 and clen should do the trick.

 

[Yellowbomber]

In a cutting cycle I always would add Clen to it

 

[Beezers]

first off increase your calories while bulking, try 4500-5000cals/day whith lots of protein.

Could'nt agree more. I think this is the main culprit here. Unless you're a little guy(if you are you should have waited to use AS) 3800 calories is maintnace or even dieting calorie level. Muscle is made from the food you eat...Not the AS you take. If you want to grow you have to have to nutrients readily availible in ABUNDANCE to build that muscle tissue. Get your mind off cutting for now and grow. Eat more or no amount of gear will induce the gains you are expecting.