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Bros Currently on Tren

For those of you that are ON or really anyone who's been on before, what dose are you taking. Are you going ed or eod. I'm wondering if 50mg ed is too low of a dose. This is my first time using Tren. I'm also on 750 Test E and 600 EQ. 6'4" 255 11%
Hows the night sweats and insomnia working for ya too ;)




Active Life: Around 2 days
Drug Class: Anabolic/Androgenic Steroid (for injection)
Average Dose: Men 75 mg every day or two days
Acne: Yes
Water Retention: No
High Blood Pressure: Yes
Liver Toxic: Yes,debatable
Aromatization: No
DHT Conversion: No
Decrease HPTA function: Yes, moderate to extreme
Gyno: No
Rage Issues: Yes
MPB: ?????
Night Sweats: YEs
Insomnia: YES
Fertility Issues: ?????

Trenbolone is a very potent androgen with strong anabolic activity. It is well suited for the rapid buildup of strength and muscle mass, usually providing the user exceptional results in a relatively short time period. The anabolic effect of this drug is often compared to popular bulking agents such as testosterone or Dianabol, with one very important difference. Trenbolone does not convert to estrogen. This is indeed a very unique compound since mass drugs, almost as a rule, will aromatize (or cause other estrogen related troubles) heavily. When we think of taking milder (regarding estrogen) steroids we usually expect much weaker muscle growth, but not so with Trenbolone. Here we do not have to worry about estrogen related side effects, yet still have an extremely potent mass/strength drug. There is no noticeable water retention, so the mass gained during a cycle of Trenbolone will be very hard and defined (providing fat levels are low enough). Gynecomastia is also not much of a concern, so there shouldn't be any need to addition an anti-estrogen if trenbolone is the only steroid administered.

The high androgen level resulting from this steroid, in the absence is excess estrogen, can also accelerate the burning of body fat. The result should be a much tighter physique, hopefully without the need for extreme dieting. Trenbolone can therefore help bring about an incredibly hard, ripped physique and is an ideal product for competitive bodybuilders.

Trenbolone is notably more potent than testosterone, and has an effect that is as much as three times as strong on a milligram for milligram basis. Likewise we can expect to see some level of androgenic side effects with use of this compound. Oily skin, aggressive behavior, acne and hair loss are therefore not uncommon during a cycle with this steroid. The androgenic nature of this drug of course makes it a very risky item for women to use, the chance for virilization symptoms extremely high with such a potent androgen.

Trenbolone is also much more potent than testosterone at suppressing endogenous androgen production. This makes clear the fact that estrogen is not the only culprit with negative feedback inhibition, as here there is no buildup of this hormone to report here. There is however some activity as a progestin inherent in this compound, as trenbolone is a 19-nortestosterone (nandrolone) derivative (a trait characteristic of these compounds). However it seems likely that much of its suppressive nature still stems from its powerful androgen action. With the strong impact trenbolone has on endogenous testosterone, of course the use of a stimulating drug such as HCG and/or Clomid/Nolvadex is recommended when concluding steroid therapy (a combination is preferred). Without their use it may take a prolonged period of time for the hormonal balance to resume, as the testes may at first not be able to normally respond to the resumed output of endogenous gonadotropins due to an atrophied state. Those who have used Trenbolone regularly would often claim it to be indispensable. A daily dosage of 37.5-75 mg is the most popular range when running a cycle. While Trenbolone is quite potent when used alone, it was generally combined with other steroids for an even greater effect. During a cutting phase one could add a non-aromatizing anabolic such as Winstrol or Primobolan. Such combinations will elicit a greater level density and hardness to the muscle. One could also bulk with this drug, with the addition of stronger compounds like Dianabol or Testosterone. While the mass gain would be quite formidable with such a stack, some level of water retention would probably also accompany it. Moderately effective anabolics such Deca-Durabolin or Equipoise would be somewhat of a halfway point, providing extra strength and mass but without the same level of water bloat we see with more readily aromatized steroids.
 
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Tren Ace here, and went with 75 EOD. But I've heard that ED is best for Tren regardless of Ace or Enant..........good luck man, sounds pretty solid.........I gained nice size off my Tren Ace and Test Enant cycle..........still running Test Enant now but am done with the Tren, and have throw in Winny for trimming up time. Running winny at 50 mg ED for 5 weeks to finish off for summer.
 
CNovaJason said:
Tren Ace here, and went with 75 EOD. But I've heard that ED is best for Tren regardless of Ace or Enant..........good luck man, sounds pretty solid.........I gained nice size off my Tren Ace and Test Enant cycle..........still running Test Enant now but am done with the Tren, and have throw in Winny for trimming up time. Running winny at 50 mg ED for 5 weeks to finish off for summer.

right on, thanks bro. BTW peeps, I'm taking Tren acetate as well!

How about the thought of the 50mg ed dose?
 
ED is best. When I did twice a day shots I was transformed completely in six weeks. I did lots of cardio and ate lots of food and lost lots of fat. Tren is the ultimate anticatabolic. You will keep your muscle if you eat. Do all the cardio you can stand -- the muscle will stay if you eat.
 
Fukkenshredded said:
ED is best. When I did twice a day shots I was transformed completely in six weeks. I did lots of cardio and ate lots of food and lost lots of fat. Tren is the ultimate anticatabolic. You will keep your muscle if you eat. Do all the cardio you can stand -- the muscle will stay if you eat.

I'm eating 7 clean meals a day. Cardio Mond. Wed. Frid. for 30-40 min.
Did you do more cardio than that?
 
50 ed is ideal for a first dance with Tren. I always play it by ear though, adjusting evry few weeks if need be, just watch the sides and gains. You've got the right starting point. I'd never go eod, it seems to amplify the sides for me. Also, if you get sweats or headaches initially, try to give it atleast a week or two. I've found most of the symptoms will fade after 5-6 days, so don't get to down if they start early, it will probably pass. I think alot of bros having heard about big bad Tren, get fast onset sides and just drop the stuff, when they would have been fine in a couple days. Then they swear off the drug as too harsh an warn others away, furthering the rep. Tren is kick ass, give it time to shine. It will transform you.
 
starting at 50 would be fine i guess, but with you size I would do at least 75mgs ED, that has worked best for me. . . I have had some of my best lifts while on Tren. First cycle with it I did 75mgs EOD, that was awesome, next cycle was 75mgs ED, and I liked it even better. The only side I really noticed was more aggression than I received from other gear. It seemed to go away as soon as I was through with it, so I dont' think it was the other gear I was on. Are you using it to finish your cycle with or are you in the middle? Who knows, maybe you don't go off, haha. I like it because its very versatile, you can use it in the beginning to kick start your shit, or at the end to really harden up. I have never used it for more than six weeks. Oh, something else I noticed, my piss was a little darker than usual when I was on it. Its supposed to be hard on your kidneys so I figured that was why.
Panther
 
PantherG45 said:
starting at 50 would be fine i guess, but with you size I would do at least 75mgs ED, that has worked best for me. . . I have had some of my best lifts while on Tren. First cycle with it I did 75mgs EOD, that was awesome, next cycle was 75mgs ED, and I liked it even better. The only side I really noticed was more aggression than I received from other gear. It seemed to go away as soon as I was through with it, so I dont' think it was the other gear I was on. Are you using it to finish your cycle with or are you in the middle? Who knows, maybe you don't go off, haha. I like it because its very versatile, you can use it in the beginning to kick start your shit, or at the end to really harden up. I have never used it for more than six weeks. Oh, something else I noticed, my piss was a little darker than usual when I was on it. Its supposed to be hard on your kidneys so I figured that was why.
Panther

Using it last 8 weeks of cycle

Bump for increasing my dose b/c of my size?
 
On Tren E 500mg EW right now but getting ready to change over to Tren A 100mg EOD
Night sweat are still around and I have been on for 6 1/2 weeks, they started about week 2 1/2 or 3. Insomnia comes and goes. but I am dealing with it.
I am on my first cutting cycle. I don;t know if my diet is 100% correct, I have lost around 13 or so lbs in 3 1/2 weeks. I have not rechecked the BF% yet, but I still have decent size and my vascularity is going crazy! I got veins sticking out that I didn't even know I had.
 
I'm on the same cycle except Deca instead of EQ (merely for the joint pain relieving qualitites). This will be my first try with Tren Ace.....so in 2 weeks I'll start either 50mg ED or 75mg EOD. Have yet to make the decision but I intend on making the best with Tren results. Good luck!
 
i am on 100 eod now i think in the future i will do ed though...yeah the only side i got is night sweats and they are a bitch...sometimes worse than others but i'll live...gave me tons of strength...i feel its definetely worth it
 
flyingjer said:
i am on 100 eod now i think in the future i will do ed though...yeah the only side i got is night sweats and they are a bitch...sometimes worse than others but i'll live...gave me tons of strength...i feel its definetely worth it

I don't quite understand why people would shoot tren ED... Acetate has a half-life of 3 days... so if prop is shot EOD, then tren acetate EOD will be fine as well. Or is there something I'm missing here?
 
azul said:
I don't quite understand why people would shoot tren ED... Acetate has a half-life of 3 days... so if prop is shot EOD, then tren acetate EOD will be fine as well. Or is there something I'm missing here?


Great question, I've always wondered the same thing. I've seen charts posted by ulter about blood concentrations, but I always thought ace was a 3 day life.
 
azul said:
I don't quite understand why people would shoot tren ED... Acetate has a half-life of 3 days... so if prop is shot EOD, then tren acetate EOD will be fine as well. Or is there something I'm missing here?

There are less sides with ED shots. Despite the Ace half life blood levels remain more constant with ED shots. Less fluctuation is better for the body. It gets used to the compound more easily.

For me night sweats come and go. The insomnia went away, for the most part, after week one.
 
idcbp said:
50 ed is ideal for a first dance with Tren. I always play it by ear though, adjusting evry few weeks if need be, just watch the sides and gains. You've got the right starting point. I'd never go eod, it seems to amplify the sides for me. Also, if you get sweats or headaches initially, try to give it atleast a week or two. I've found most of the symptoms will fade after 5-6 days, so don't get to down if they start early, it will probably pass. I think alot of bros having heard about big bad Tren, get fast onset sides and just drop the stuff, when they would have been fine in a couple days. Then they swear off the drug as too harsh an warn others away, furthering the rep. Tren is kick ass, give it time to shine. It will transform you.

I have always used a dosage of around 75 mg ED. I feel like the side effects get worse the longer you are on. I think the bloodlevels get more concentrated longer along in the cycle, and this is when the side start in. When the night sweats and other sides such as headache get too bad I will cut back on the dose a couple of days until they go away. I then increase the dosage, but may never get back to what I was using in the beginning. I use tren with about every cycle now.
 
I started on 100mg/Tren-suspension/Day one month ago, and just switched to acetate. Night sweats started in week four and is my least favorite part of using tren. The sheets are soaked in the morning, but my strength is WAY up and I’m already starting to see the veins in my shoulders pop out. I love tren.
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
For those of you that are ON or really anyone who's been on before, what dose are you taking. Are you going ed or eod. I'm wondering if 50mg ed is too low of a dose. This is my first time using Tren. I'm also on 750 Test E and 600 EQ. 6'4" 255 11%
Hows the night sweats and insomnia working for ya too ;)

In 11th week of my 12 weeker. First 7 weeks, ran Tren Ace 75mg EOD. It was my first experience with Tren, so I thought I would take it slow at that dose. Looking back, I think I should have been taking it ED. I can handle it pretty well and really could have handled ED injections. No night sweats for me. The worst thing about it for me was ZERO appetite. Had to fight with myself just to eat anything.
 
ED is best. When I did twice a day shots I was transformed completely in six weeks. I did lots of cardio and ate lots of food and lost lots of fat. Tren is the ultimate anticatabolic. You will keep your muscle if you eat. Do all the cardio you can stand -- the muscle will stay if you eat
fukkenshredded-

you were shooting tren ace twice a day??? please explain cuz your results sound great were you on any other aas????

BIC
 
BIC said:
ED is best. When I did twice a day shots I was transformed completely in six weeks. I did lots of cardio and ate lots of food and lost lots of fat. Tren is the ultimate anticatabolic. You will keep your muscle if you eat. Do all the cardio you can stand -- the muscle will stay if you eat

Yo, how much cardio and how often etc. minutes, days a week, intensity???
 
Sorry I Posted Wrong I Was Trying To Quote Fuckenshredded He Was The One Shooting Twice A Day...i Was Asking Him The Same Question......about Shooting Twice A Day

Bic
 
whats the typical time frame for tren? I notice some said 12 wks, snarling looks like he is doing it 7 weeks..what the minimum? or is there any with tren? is it better to stack in the beggining or end?
 
I've posted this before.... I'm on tren E 500 mg/ew... AND NOT A DAMNED THING. :( I'm gonna try tren A next time, maybe use EQ or something, not sure yet.
 
I ran it for 8 weeks at 75mg a day. No acne, no insomnia, no sheding. I had night sweats about 2-3 times. It was a good drug for me.
 
50mg isn't so bad for your first run with tren. I used 75mg a day both times. First time was fine, except for night sweats. the second time, the insomnia got so bad I had to get a script for Ambien and the night seats got REAL bad. Great results from this drug, however the side effects were just too fuckin annoting for me last time, so I'll be skippin on it from now on, or for at least a good while.
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
how many weeks are you going to do the 75mg ed?

I'm running it for the last 8 weeks before my show. I'm 1 week out right now. The only sides I've had are night sweats and insomnia.
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
you should have seen something with 500mg tren E, good source? Acetate is the way to go

Yea, good source, or at least everyone on this board says so... I've always been resistant to chemicals, it seems. I have to take huge doses to get the same effects for most people. maybe I should try that....
 
Just wanted to clarify that I never experienced night sweats from tren. My sides were mainly headaches and bp related. They peaked after 5 days and faded. Bros seem pretty hung up on the night sweat issue, so I thought I'd address it. Like I said, I didn't get them thank god, but most of my "gym crew" LOL also ran tren alot and alot of them did get the night sweats. Hate to drop this on you all, but the sweats were ones side that seemed to persist once it started. It usually took a little longer to develop, but it didn't tend to fade once it showed. One thing to note though, the frequency of them varied widely from person to person. Some guys had it every damn night, while others only once or twice a week or less. We tried endlessly to find some trigger or way to minimize the things, but it seemed like you just had to deal. I'd say if you get the night sweats, you just gotta decide whether you want to deal with them, basically if its worth it, cuz they probably aren't going anywhere.
 
50mg/ed is a perfect starting dose, I had bad sweats the first time I used it, nothing the second time at a higher dose of 75mg/ed..
 
100mg ED, sides are pretty bad... the veins on my arms look icky. not noticed any difference in sides from 50mg ED but the strength is off the hook :)
 
Tweakle said:
100mg ED, sides are pretty bad... the veins on my arms look icky. not noticed any difference in sides from 50mg ED but the strength is off the hook :)


LOL...Yeah gotta hate that damn vascularity...
 
GOOD GOD, have fun with that! I don't think I could handle that much. Make sure you drink a lot of cranberry juice because thats gonna be hell on your kidneys. Whats the highest you've went before this?
 
I'm on 75 mgs e.d of fina and 500 mgs a week of sust. Strength increases were not as dramatic as I expected, nothing like d-bol. But I just finished week 5 so we'll see. I've got 5 left to go on the tren and 7 left on the sust. To tell the truth I'm not as impressed with this stuff as I thought I would be, although everyone else tells me I look huge. I'm definately more vascular and I think I'm cutting some fat, but it's kind of hard to tell b/c I'm bloated from eating so much food all day. It's always kind of hard for me to see my own gains. My first cycle I gained 30 lbs and didn't think I looked that much bigger. I'm at 203, up from 191. Shit is making me mean as a fuckin rabid dog. I literally want to knock out everyone I meet/see.
 
vascularity on tren doesnt seem dependent on bf% ... maybe the increase in bp makes you more veiny, I'm bloated as fuck at 235 but I still have my lower ab veins. (lower belly veins more like.. )

hear ya on the aggression thing... need to take a lot of time outs cause the feeling that you can crush anyone like a coke can will get you into trouble.

actually there's one side that only tren gives me that I dont like.. in the bedroom im soaking in sweat after 5 mins, finding I gotta let her do all the work lol.
 
Tweakle said:
vascularity on tren doesnt seem dependent on bf% ... maybe the increase in bp makes you more veiny, I'm bloated as fuck at 235 but I still have my lower ab veins. (lower belly veins more like.. )

hear ya on the aggression thing... need to take a lot of time outs cause the feeling that you can crush anyone like a coke can will get you into trouble.

actually there's one side that only tren gives me that I dont like.. in the bedroom im soaking in sweat after 5 mins, finding I gotta let her do all the work lol.

aggression is magnified for sure on this drug. dreams are crazy, have to do double takes before I talk to someone or respond to a question from somebody in public or at the gym...words coming out of my mouth has been worse than usual, and that's bad :p
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
Mak, I want to see your precontest pics bro!

I actually don't have any! I'm pissed about it, but everytime I tried taking them the lighting was fucked and they didn't turn out. I'll try to put some up of the show though brotha... ;)
 
Goldprospector said:
On Tren E 500mg EW right now but getting ready to change over to Tren A 100mg EOD
Night sweat are still around and I have been on for 6 1/2 weeks, they started about week 2 1/2 or 3. Insomnia comes and goes. but I am dealing with it.
I am on my first cutting cycle. I don;t know if my diet is 100% correct, I have lost around 13 or so lbs in 3 1/2 weeks. I have not rechecked the BF% yet, but I still have decent size and my vascularity is going crazy! I got veins sticking out that I didn't even know I had.
but all n all do u like the tren ent apposed to the tren ace.?
 
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