Bromocriptine for weight loss

[SuperWoman]

I just got done reading Lyle McDonald's new e-book called Bromocriptine. It seems to be a promising drug for getting and staying lean when combined with diet/exercise. I saw on the men's boards they use it post cycle for gyno, but I was wondering if any females out there have used it and what the results were? How did you tolerate it? What were your beginning stats (weight, bf%) and ending?

If anyone's interested in reading the book it's $20 and at this site:
www.qfac.com It also increases natural growth hormone production in normal people. Lyle states that unlike Clen, your receptors never down regulate so you can keep loosing weight. Sounds almost too good to be true!

Some people who posted results on Lyle's message board at www.theketogenicdiet.com have used it with great success in as little as a month's time. I don't think any women have posted yet...

 

[Fonz]

I just got done reading Lyle McDonald's new e-book called Bromocriptine. It seems to be a promising drug for getting and staying lean when combined with diet/exercise. I saw on the men's boards they use it post cycle for gyno, but I was wondering if any females out there have used it and what the results were? How did you tolerate it? What were your beginning stats (weight, bf%) and ending?

If anyone's interested in reading the book it's $20 and at this site:
www.qfac.com It also increases natural growth hormone production in normal people. Lyle states that unlike Clen, your receptors never down regulate so you can keep loosing weight. Sounds almost too good to be true!

Some people who posted results on Lyle's message board at www.theketogenicdiet.com have used it with great success in as little as a month's time. I don't think any women have posted yet...

Hmmmm.....

I think Lyle was stretching the truth there somewhat.

There are 2 main central nervous system components.

1. The SYMPATHETIC nervous system(or SNS).

ECA/Clen and all the other Beta-agonists all traget this
system.

This system is adrenaline/noradrenaline based.

2. The PARA-SYMPATHETIC nervous system(or PNS)

This system is dopamine based.

What bromocriptine does is, is stimulate the PNS.
Sort of like a very strong DMAE.

Since it still affects THE RELEASE of dopamine, it has to have
an effect on the muscarinic and nicotinic receptors in
the PNS.

What would happen, is that you'd have to increase your dose
to get the same lipolytic effects as time passed.

While 2.5mgs would cut it for the first 8-10 weeks, you'd
probably have to increase it to 5mg after that.

If you kept the cycle length <10 weeks, you should suffer no
down-regulation.

Fonz

 

[Fonz]

Nice post, Fonz.

Thanks.

Fonz

 

[pryncess]

I've been looking for info too, bought the brom, then Lyle's book. Was a little leary about the part saying made unfertile woman fertile--wondering too if it will affect bc or not??

Well having the drug and book and being very excited I did a search and read every thread. Truthfully, I couldn't find any firm experiences saying it would help. Alot of people said they were going to try it and post results only they never followed thru, maybe a day or two, that's it.

One guy started right when I got mine and I was on the post too--encouraging him to post sides, results, etc. Well he never did, I pm'd him he said he would but mostly said he felt spacey and doped up a bit?????

Did you find any threads that really said made dieting easier and helped lose fat??? Maybe I just missed it? Wish I could tell you more!

 

[macrophage69alpha]

makes women infertile because it suppresses prolactin

there is some validity..

though believe that a selegine + hydergine stack is more beneficial from a neurotransmitter standpoint

 

[barnidge]

Fonz,

Would time off allow receptors to upregulate?

 

[MS]

It's not even just a question of target receptor downregulation. It's also a question of long term neuronal cross talk that affects the brain at multiple levels, much the same as SSRIs are not JUST serotonergic in the long run.

I find the available research for the use of bromocriptine in non-obese, non-diabetic women to be less than compelling as a weight loss drug. For sure, decreased dopaminergic tone is closely associated with obesity so there is good reason to try bromocriptine in obese populations. On many levels it appears it can improve abberant metabolic imbalances. But if you don't happen to have those imbalances to begin with, I would be surprised to hear that you lose a lot of weight on bromo alone. I would think other dopaminergic drugs (eg bupropion) would be just as effective with less potential side effects. But I don't personally know any non-obese women that have tried bromo.

I don't think bromcriptine increases fertility in normal women...it justs decreases excessive prolactin in women who are infertile (due to the elevated prolactin levels), thus restoring their fertility. High prolactin levels make a womens ovaries think she is pregnant, thus suprressing ovulation.

Macro, tell us more about your selegine + hydergine stack pretty please??

 

[spatts]

 

[circusgirl]

isn't increaed dopamine associated with schizophrenic and manic episodes? I'm not planning on taking this substance, but the idea of increasing dopamine production sets of warning bells... does it work by making people more manic?

I'm curious, as my antidepressant works on dopamine as well as serotonin, makes me somewhat midly manic all the time, and doesn't do a damn thing for my weight! (diet's still crappy, although less crappy than before).

 

[NubianBeauty]

Macro how much of each? (selegine + hydergine) I have both.

 

[Fonz]

isn't increaed dopamine associated with schizophrenic and manic episodes? I'm not planning on taking this substance, but the idea of increasing dopamine production sets of warning bells... does it work by making people more manic?

I'm curious, as my antidepressant works on dopamine as well as serotonin, makes me somewhat midly manic all the time, and doesn't do a damn thing for my weight! (diet's still crappy, although less crappy than before).

I'd stay away from Bromo if i were you.

Bromo is Ok for men for prolactin inhibition(.625-1.25mgs/day), but any higher and you feel bad.

I will never go past 1.25mgs again. Just felt really tired all the time.

DMAE is a better choice for a Dopaminergic Nootropic for women.
(Weak but effective over time)

Selegine + Hydergine is something I have never taken.

Just piracetam + DMAE.

Fonz

 

[Fonz]

makes women infertile because it suppresses prolactin

there is some validity..

though believe that a selegine + hydergine stack is more beneficial from a neurotransmitter standpoint

That stack can get rather expensive Macro.

At IAS that is.

Piracetam is coming out in Powder form($100/Kg). Can't wait.

Fonz

 

[macrophage69alpha]

That stack can get rather expensive Macro.

At IAS that is.

Piracetam is coming out in Powder form($100/Kg). Can't wait.

Fonz

that much... someones taking advantage

 

[macrophage69alpha]

actually the hydergine selegiline stack is quite cheap

get the liquid version of both

deprenyl 1mg in the am and one at night (start with 1mg per day)

hydergine 1mg 3-4 times a day (to preference)

btw- when time permits will be releasing a nootropic
though right now finishing up new thermogen and appetite suppressant.

 

[NubianBeauty]

WOW!! Can't wait!! How long do you anticipate before its release?

 

[Fonz]

actually the hydergine selegiline stack is quite cheap

get the liquid version of both

deprenyl 1mg in the am and one at night (start with 1mg per day)

hydergine 1mg 3-4 times a day (to preference)

btw- when time permits will be releasing a nootropic
though right now finishing up new thermogen and appetite suppressant.

Cool.

New thermogen?.....GLA?

You got me on the appetite suppressant, no clue.

But the New NYC+ is not to my liking.(But I guess you guys had no choice b/c of the raw PPA.....not available anymore).

I'm trying every insomnia(legal stack) I know b/c I seriously can't sleep.

Should be getting my L-Trypt from IAS any time now, plus Taurine from Kilosports.

Fonz