Bromocriptine dosing and timing/ nicotine gum

[Creatureofnight]

Pryncess- thanks for the tips from the book. As far as not understanding being able to keep appetite under control, it has nothing to do bromo (have never used yet), I will be using t3 and my appetite soars while on. ECA would always keep this at bay, but that option is out the window.

I wont be starting the bromo for about 4 more weeks, will keep all posted.

 

[Par Deus]

Does anyone who has read the book recall if Lyle gave a reason for not using products that increase norepinephrine, because Meridia, which he recommends, does excatly that.

 

[plornive]

Nicotine increases dopamine levels while bromocriptine is a dopamine agonist. In that regard, nicotine is mostly redundant. Increasing actual dopamine levels may stimulate some dopamine receptors bromocriptine doesn't agonize, but this is probably negligible.

Nicotine may have other effects, so I am curious how combining nicotine with bromocriptine will work.

Since nicotine increases dopamine, it makes sense to watch out for dopamine related sides. You also might want to avoid nicotine at night, which is when dopamine is naturally at it's highest level.

Maybe try 5-HTP at night to increase serotonin and take bromo right when you wake up. You could take nicotine while you are sitting doing nothing in the middle of the day. This would decrease your appetite and possibly increase lipolysis (since nicotine is a stimulant).

I have thought about combining the two, and the above are my thoughts and what I have learned. Hope it helps.

 

[plornive]

I read the book and wasn't at all as profound as I thought it would be. The whole book was in theory and not ever experimented with for normal people. Diabetics lost fat while gaining muscle resulting in no change to body weight on slightly lower than maintenance diet; obese people lost fat and weight without losing muscle and even putting on a pound or two of LBM. Post menapause (here's the real market) women lost major amounts of fat--like 20lbs in 3 weeks, no muscle loss. Those are the only facts. That and the only people to die from this drug all had heart problems--unfortunately they all died when trying it.

About dosing--the book says upto 5mg daily but must take in the morning. See, your bodies natural clock says eat all day, sleep at night. Well if you take Bromo during the day or at night, your body will not want to sleep it will still want to look for food. Although you may be tired, you will be starving. Lyle said take first thing when you wake up--and be sure to only start with one pill or even half of that. Apparently the majority of users pass out (on the floor usually) with the first dose--luckily only a minute percentage continue to experience this--usually it's the first one or two times--think GHB coma like feeling--such a drastic chemical change in your body (increases dopamine greatly) just lays you out flat.

There are all kinds of directions on the pack, except for his but this part does make sense to me--I would follow his advise here.

The stuff about ECA is true--which is good to know--feel like the bromo is going to put you under for good--take the stack--it's has an almost immediate counter effect. No he didn't name specifically other ingrediants--just anything that stimulates beta receptors. To me that means Yo too. The thing that gets me is that you all keep saying you're appetite is hard to manage while you are on the bromo--Lyle said you won't need anything to help you and shouldn't be hungry because it will keep Leptin levels up--seems like a big contradiction.

I have some, but I never tried it--thought it would be good for when your ECA stack stops working and you have to go without for a couple weeks (plus it's supposed to really enhance sex)--I'm not hearing enough now to be convinced. Keep posting your results!

Uhhh... I just started it yesterday. I didn't pass out on the floor. The only thing I noticed was a wierd feeling I wasn't used to, but now I feel fine --- almost stimulated. My pupils are dialated like I just smoked a few nice, big juicy bowls of mary J. (I am starting to crave some weed)

I'll let ya know how it goes. If I were you, I would just take it. That's just me, though.

 

[pryncess]

Hey that's cool dude--like I said I never tried it. Mostly heard on different boards and from a friend who said he and his girl it for the sexual sides one Sunday morning hoping to stay in bed all day. He took two, she took one--she ended up running to the bathroom to throw up and passing out next to the bowl and waking up three hours later and find him on the floor in the bedroom. She spent the next 40 minutes trying to wake him up and when she finally did he just couldn't remember anything after taking the pill.

Yeah I checked, they said they smoked a J the night before but didn't do anything that morning. Doesn't prove anything more, just maked the possibility seem a little more realistic. Also some things said in these posts.

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=139776&highlight=bromocriptine

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=107244&highlight=bromocriptine

Anyway, the more positive experiences I hear the better so good to know you didn't have this reaction.

 

[SirWanksalot]

Combining Nicotine and Bromo

Sirwanksalot

 

[Creatureofnight]

Thanks for the post Sirwanksalot

 

[maggikitty]

Thinker82:

Any Bromo update?