Brock Straussers new opinion on I.P.

[Bootyshaker]

Cut and paste from Testosterone.net. There is also lab reports on their website.

I might give I.p another look!!!!!

IP Lab Tests Are In!

In the past, I've criticized IP (International Pharmaceuticals, the top steroid bootlegger) for making gear that was either mislabeled or just shoddy. I'd like to correct some of my errors now. A reader sent me some lab assays done on IP products via San Rafael Chemical Services and while IP's label isn't always accurate, he's damn close much of the time. Recent assays via SRCS have demonstrated the following (and I'm posting a few of the scans, not all of them as space won't permit me to do such):

IP's Equipose tested out to 143mg/ml boldenone undecylenate per SRCS analysis.

IP's Testosterone Cypionate tested out to 176mg/ml Testosterone cypionate per SRCS analysis.

IP's 50mg Dbol Tablets tested out to 57.4mg of methandrosteneolone per SRCS analysis.

IP's 50mg Winstrol Tablets tested out to 46.9mg of stanozolol per SRCS analysis.

So far, this makes IP's stuff as good or about as good as most of the Mexican veterinary stuff.

IP's "Sustanon version 1" (see scan) tested out to be 54.1mg of Testosterone propionate and 206mg of Testosterone cypionate per ml. So while it has a little more Testosterone in it than an amp of Omnadren or Sustanon, it does only have two esters as opposed to four. No biggie here; the net effect with IP's stuff is the same.

But, another sample of IP's "Sustanon version 2" (see scan) contained 96.5mg of Testosterone propionate and 205mg of Testosterone undecanoate per ml. So while you're getting a lot of bang for the buck, the consistency issue is something I'd watch. That and the large amount of benzyl alcohol IP uses to "sterilize" his stuff which can cause some pretty sore injection site reactions.

However, all of the microbiological assays I've seen of IP's injectables, real assays from real companies, not some half-witted knucklehead making the stuff up on his computer in his "lab," have shown next to no coliform bacteria, which to me means IP is making clean (albeit somewhat painful) gear. Way to go IP, good job.

I didn't much care for IP before and I'm the first to admit my opinion was based on people supplying me information that was, shall we say, less than honest. I've learned something here: many of the people trashing IP (and other booters) have a vested interest in doing so because they don't carry or can't get IP stuff to make a buck on it.

So here's what I'd suggest all of you do: Next time some loudmouth claims so-and-so's product is bogus or whatever, don't ask, demand to see a real lab assay from a real lab like SRCS or tell the mouthy bastard to shut the heck up.

GAC (who in addition to his GAC line is now making a new line for another supplier called Red Star of China) took a pretty big thrashing a few months ago about his Masteron product with little proof it was bunk. Recently, under the Red Star of China moniker, this booter has launched a 50mg/ml methenolone acetate product (Primobolan, why he didn't use the enanthate ester is beyond me) in a large jug, either 30ml or 50ml. From what I hear, the price is fantastic, and as you can see from the scan from SRCS, the stuff is really Primobolan.

 

[serge]

this just goes to show you that ALL IP haters were nothing but bunch of newbies who did not know how to eat/train in the first place so naturally they pointed the finger at the gear they ran; and ofcoarse we had the RESIDENT dealers that were loosing buisness to IP

"So here's what I'd suggest all of you do: Next time some loudmouth claims so-and-so's product is bogus or whatever, don't ask, demand to see a real lab assay from a real lab like SRCS or tell the mouthy bastard to shut the FUCK up."

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[Bootyshaker]

The real strange thing is that Brock used to rip I.P. apart. I wonder if he is using his own advice???

Cheers

 

[Ulter]

It's nice for IP when he can have one of his resellers submit his gear to a lab. That way he knows what gear is being submitted and can control the batch.
I am not a source and have vested interest in anything but making sure people get what they pay for. With IP it's a crap shoot. You never know when he is going to put more water in the soup than stock. After years on the boards and countless emails from people who say "I should have listened" I will continue to advise people to stay clear of his gear.

 

[serge]

The real strange thing is that Brock used to rip I.P. apart. I wonder if he is using his own advice???

Cheers

yes he did, that is why he posted this article in the first place, he is admiting that he was wrong

 

[Bootyshaker]

It's nice for IP when he can have one of his resellers submit his gear to a lab. That way he knows what gear is being submitted and can control the batch.
I am not a source and have vested interest in anything but making sure people get what they pay for. With IP it's a crap shoot. You never know when he is going to put more water in the soup than stock. After years on the boards and countless emails from people who say "I should have listened" I will continue to advise people to stay clear of his gear.

That as well is a good point. But who is to say that some of the big places don't do shit like that as well?

 

[serge]

It's nice for IP when he can have one of his resellers submit his gear to a lab. That way he knows what gear is being submitted and can control the batch.
I am not a source and have vested interest in anything but making sure people get what they pay for. With IP it's a crap shoot. You never know when he is going to put more water in the soup than stock. After years on the boards and countless emails from people who say "I should have listened" I will continue to advise people to stay clear of his gear.

well here is an idea, why dont you email one of the "I should have listened" people and have one of them send their "bunk" gear to get tested..............that will clear things up alot, so far we got good test results to speak for his gear, although that same "reseller" submited anavar that tested poorly on the content, only half of the clamed oxondrolone content (hence his tabs are now labled only 5mg and not 10mg)

 

[Bulldog_10]

well here is an idea, why dont you email one of the "I should have listened" people and have one of them send their "bunk" gear to get tested..............that will clear things up alot, so far we got good test results to speak for his gear, although that same "reseller" submited anavar that tested poorly on the content, only half of the clamed oxondrolone content (hence his tabs are now labled only 5mg and not 10mg)

I know this wasn't the point of what you were trying to say...but $1 (or less) for 5mg anavar tabs isn't bad...

 

[pbear99]

I agree...under $1 for his 5mg anavar is pretty darn good, but since his 10mg anavar tested out to actually be only 5mg's, does that mean his new 5mg's are really only 2.5mg's, or do you think that he realized the 10's were only half and relabled them? If this is the case, I applaud IP.

 

[serge]

I know this wasn't the point of what you were trying to say...but $1 (or less) for 5mg anavar tabs isn't bad...

exactly...........

"I agree...under $1 for his 5mg anavar is pretty darn good, but since his 10mg anavar tested out to actually be only 5mg's, does that mean his new 5mg's are really only 2.5mg's, or do you think that he realized the 10's were only half and relabled them? If this is the case, I applaud IP."

he uses the same procedure as he did to make his 10mg tabs, but he realized that he was not acheaving conversion initially expected, so he now markets his tabs as 5mg instead of 10mg