boxers_cycle

[devils~boxer]

hi,

im looking for a cycle for a boxer, what do u think..!! i want to add a little size while keeping lean and up the agression.not to much though. i was thinking of having it based around tren/eg

i tried to find a boxing forum that might have some info but i was unlucky in finding one. there are so many different types of gear out there and i dont have to much epx with it.

 

[jdog9304]

Winny is great for the average athlete. It cuts you up, makes you faster, and especially rock hard. body shots wont hurt anymore. hee hee

 

[liquidmuscle]

halo,winny...halo for the agression and winny for staying leaned up both will make you strong and hard

 

[beefybull]

hi,

im looking for a cycle for a boxer, what do u think..!! i want to add a little size while keeping lean and up the agression.not to much though. i was thinking of having it based around tren/eg

i tried to find a boxing forum that might have some info but i was unlucky in finding one. there are so many different types of gear out there and i dont have to much epx with it.

Hey Devils,
Welcome to the board. You've came to the right place to get knowledge. Anyway, for better help, tell us a bit about yourself. Age, Height, Weight, Is there a certain amount of time til your next fight?, Whats your diet like?, etc. This will let people help you with a cycle a little bit better.

Also, are you/have you been taking supplements? It amazes me how many people jump headfirst into AAS without trying to maximize their genetic potential with legal supplements first.

 

[nhbgorilla]

I used to box and now fight mma since I moved to a place where the grappling/MMA schools are way better than the boxing gyms. Ive done an EQ/anavar cycle, a way too low dose anavar cycle, winny, and fina.
EQ is not the best thing unless you have some appetite suppressant in there, it can make u hungry as a muthfucka and youll be in a different weight class in no time. On the other hand, EQ seems to help with muscular endurance for some reason I cant remember-red blood cells increase or some shit, so EQ plus an ECA/NYC or any other thing that suppresses appetite a little is a damn good choice.
Fina is good , other than it kind of tightens your joints up a little or something and of course u can gain way too much weight on it if you lift/eat for mass, but for the "mean-ness" and "lean-ness", fina is a good choice(lean gains, no bloat, gets u a little agressive).
Winny is by far the worse on your joints, so fina/winny together, and trust me, your jabbing shoulder will feel like shit in about a week, but buttloads of glucosamine can help, as will Deca but I say fuck that drug from what Ive heard about it(many will disagree).
Id say find your favorite little combo among anavar, EQ, fina, and winny. everyone reacts different. Im about to try a fina/anavar combo if anyone will ever answer my last few questions(hint,hint), ill let u know how it goes if youre still around. peace
btw- are u pro?

 

[MadenHB]

Don't follow Gorillas advice.

Fina is not good for boxing/wrestling/NHB. Don't do anything with high androgens, it will kill your cardio.

also don't touch ECA, it will also kill your cardio and get your heart rate through the fkn roof when training.

lmao suggesting drugs that make you "Aggressive". If it takes an anabolic to give you heart or be "Aggressive" you're in the wrong sport. Boxing is won with technique, conditioning,heart and speed. Not aggression, it will get your azz ko'd.

 

[nhbgorilla]

dont follow MadenHB's advice. If im not mistaken he does deca and eq at the same time, nuff said.

Fina is not going to affect your cardio much if at all, unless you use it forever, and then obviously youll have about 30 lbs of extra muscle to carry around, thats about the only way its gonna fuck up your "cardio", unless Im some genetic mutant and the only one it doesnt happen to. and oh , by the way, its about the only drug that users consistently report a DROP in bf% and an INCREASE in lbm and strength. the other is anavar.

as for ECA, it was just a suggestion to go with EQ since it ups appetite in most people, theres also quite a few things to decrease appetite, but ECA works damn good.
as for ECA killing your cardio, you gotta be kidding me with that one. Ephedrine was originally used for asthma, which means its a bronchodilator, which means opening your lung passages, which means better breathing, which means better cardio. if your heart rate went through the roof, you took too much without being used to it yet or some shit. I dont even use it, but it sure wouldnt fuck up your cardio unless you took enough to feel all retarded and overstimulated, and even then, its not your "cardio" thats fucking you up.

btw-boxer- these are pretty much "offseason" ideas, especially the winny (joint problems) and fina (seems to give me some joint tightness too). Anavar and EQ on the other hand was the special formula of my last KO. If youve never done AS, try 400mg/week of EQ and 30-40 mgs of Anavar/day for 8-10 weeks. I think youll get what youre looking for if you eat/train like a boxer, not a bodybuilder. otherwise you may gain too much weight and have to fight the big fellas.

and if youre talking to me about "suggesting" aggression compounds, thats what the mutha fucka asked for in the first place slick.

lmao at fuckheads who cant read

 

[Perfect Storm]

boxing

Hey Devil-I like gorilla's recommendation-Anavar and Eq. I don't see the anabolic use effecting your cardio conditioning unless you get too much density. Quality strenght and conditioning-it all depends on how you train-and control your appetitie.
Equipoise is used on race horses-and I'm thinking cardio is a little important to them. So is Winstrol.
Anavar will not make you agressive-but great for moderate strenght enhancement.
Halo is great , and tren a close 2nd, for making your disposition a lot nastier-in and out of comp. You will feel it -and only thought you were intnese before. Don't know if you'll need that, though. If you are stepping into the ring or onto the mat-agressiveness isn't an issue(or should'nt be), and you need to keep control.
I've done both MMA and boxing, muay thai all my life, but never under the "influence". Just started AAS use recently. Personally, I'm not sure I could maintian enough control with halo-tren, and, for desert, some Test flying through my system. I may beat my own ass before starting....
EQ- Anavar-anytime. Tren-but not while fighting get my vote.

 

[nhbgorilla]

lmfao about beating your own ass. I almost beat my own ass this morning sitting in traffic

 

[2Thick]

You would benefit the most from a straight Oxandrolone (anavar) and Creatine cycle.

If you are around 150-190 then 30mg of Oxandrolone for 7-8 weeks along with the creatine will give you the strength, density and low BF that you are looking for while still gaining a low-to-moderate amount of lean body mass (depending on your training).

 

[macho21]

2Thick's advice is solid. When I boxed, winny was very popular. Also, anything containing caffeine is not recommended, it can lead to dehydration. If you get cut, aspirin will make the bleeding worse so it is not recommended.

 

[MadenHB]

Gorilla, Their may be one difference between us, I actaully FIGHT NHB, while you wrap your BJJ white belt around your waist and probably watched me fight on tape

you're a newbie to AAS and NHB if you think taking Ephedrine products and training go together. IN your next white belt class, pop a few before class and tell me how you feel.

lol I take Deca and EQ together

I would suggest the EQ/Anavar. I'd take wintrol/anavar during wrestling season in college, I kept my strenght and didnt gain to much scale weight. I did get muscle cramps though

I still stand by not taking Fina. Gorilla seems to think it's not highly androgenic, he's such an expert, lol

 

[nhbgorilla]

Fought in Japan and USA, 10-3 mma, the 3 losses were my first fight by decision, a DQ, and tapped to a VERY good figher. whats your record? This message board is based on being discreet, so Ill say no more, but what tapes are you on if youre gonna brag and shit? I dont brag but if youre gonna brag then why dont u just tell us who you are tough guy? You in Huntington Beach?? or does that mean Homosexual Buttpirate?

newbie huh, like you know a fucking thing about me faggot ass.

never said fina wasnt highly androgenic now did I, stupid. once again, learn how to read ya fucking retard child. i said it wasnt that bad for cardio, and I also said its more of an "offseason" idea. I guess you have serious reading comprehension problems.

ephedrine-like I said, I dont use it, ya illiterate mother fucker, but when I did i definitely noticed its "bronchodilating" effects, not bad for cardio, good for cardio. if youre talking from personal experience u took too much. if youre not talking from personal experience then shut the fuck up.

lmfao at you saying "dont listen to me" and then advising him to do EXACTLY what I just advised him to do with the EQ/anavar. nice original idea, toolboy.

and let me guess, winny is just great for submissions practicioners isnt it. just do shitloads of winny and train submissions daily, great idea.

more of a wrestler than BJJer, although 5 of my wins are by submission. I do still got a white belt around somewhere, but the only thing I would wrap it around is your bitch ass neck.

 

[devils~boxer]

thanks for the reply guys, hows this cycle:

eq-600mg/wk 1-10
tren-50mg/ed 1-8
primo-400mg/wk 8-12
winny depo-50mg/ed 8-12
anavar-40mg/ed 1-6
hallo????? not sure on these doses (also its very toxic so is a ??? at the im

dave

 

[Lord_Suston]

Devil~boxer that cycle might be a little too much for the first time.
My recommendations for you is to stay away from most tests if you need to be in a certain body weight range.

EQ- increases red blood cells and this will help your cardio and recovery, speed might decrease a little untill you can handle the easy pumps your muscles will recieve during training

Winstrol- recuces bf% and is a nice increase in strength but not too much in size relative to other gear out there. No real decrease in speed but cause muscle cramps if not properly hydrated eat plenty of pottasium

Anavar- very good to keep muscle and gain strength, you won't sacrifice to much speed on anavar, plus with an anti-estro you will rebound your own test levels nicely while keeping your gains.

I also choose clen for speed training, i know other will disagree but using this and training will make your muscles fire faster.

Try to keep BB to a minumin if you're serious about fighting, just basic compound excercises explosively and not too failure as scar tissue buildup slows fighters down. My suggestions is to squat, deadlift, clean and jerk, incline, shrugs (for neck strength), and pull-ups. almost all isolation excercises will hinder fighting ability

 

[devils~boxer]

hi,

this will be my 4th cycle, but before i have mainly used deca/tests/tren/primo/winnt