BOT or anyone help- 1st cycle

[lift4ever]

I just took my first injection, of my first cycle, of sus @ 250mg/wk. I plan to run this cycle for 8 weeks. The only gear I could get was sus 250 and clomid for maintenance. I am eating 250 g protein a day but only getting about 2200 clean calories. With no other gear should I stay @ 250mg/wk the whole cycle?

 

[BigAndy69]

I just took my first injection, of my first cycle, of sus @ 250mg/wk. I plan to run this cycle for 8 weeks. The only gear I could get was sus 250 and clomid for maintenance. I am eating 250 g protein a day but only getting about 2200 clean calories. With no other gear should I stay @ 250mg/wk the whole cycle?

My little brother eats more than you!!! 2200 cals!! How much do you weigh?

 

[lift4ever]

I weigh 215 lbs but I eat all Day,only complex carbs and protein such as veggies and chicken, when I total up the calories aren't there.

 

[genarr3]

250 a week is fine. Expect posts suggesting 500 or 750.
I don't know what you mean by, "clomid for maintenance". But if you have any questions concerning clomid you'll find the answers here:
http://209.11.101.244/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29091&highlight=clomid+faq

 

[lift4ever]

Sorry, Clomid is for post cycle. I was worried about uping the dosage without any nolvadex.

 

[liquidmuscle]

my first cycle consisted of sust250a wk and deca 300mgs a wk both for 8 wks and i gained 20lbs, i lost only 5lbs so yes i think you will be fine

 

[genarr3]

Bro it's your first cycle see how you react to 250.

 

[lift4ever]

my first cycle consisted of sust250a wk and deca 300mgs a wk both for 8 wks and i gained 20lbs, i lost only 5lbs so yes i think you will be fine

Thanks liquid, I tried to get some deca but my source couldn't come through.

 

[liquidmuscle]

i still do low doses and i get great results, i did one cycle that was high and i didnt gain shit except for 10lbs of water from the d-bol and everyone called me bloatface it was real fuckin cool

 

[lift4ever]

Tell me how you guys eat. Its hard to get clean calories up to 3500 and since my body fat is about 14% I didn't want to eat fast food just to get there.

 

[BigAndy69]

Eggs, extra lean ground beef, chicken breast, egg whites, protein powder, tuna, shrimp(my favorite), black beans, olive oil, oatmeal, sweet potatoes, cottage cheese.

At your weight, you are going to need 325g of protein, 425g of carbs, 55g of fat.

Here's a good sample diet:

Meal 1: 45g of whey
12 oz of skim milk
40g of oatmeal put everything in a blender.
Apple

Carbs/Protein/Fat

80/60/ 8?

Meal 2: 1 chicken breast, 1 can of tuna sweet potatoe

70/70/ 5?

Meal 3: Subway: Chicken breast sandwich, double meat, no cheese or sauces, brown or coutry bread. Lettuce, green peppers, onions, lots of olives.

80/70/ 10?

Meal 4: Pre workout: 30g of whey, 1 tablespoon of honey

15/30/ minimal

Meal5: Post workout: 30g of whey, Powerade, Soda crackers

60/30/ minimal

Meal 6: (30-45 mins after Postworkout.): 1 cup of black beans, 1 can of tuna, 1 tablesppon of olive oil. 1 egg

40(20 of it are fiber)/ 45/ <20

Meal 7: Half a container of cottage cheese

15/30/ ?

 

[gtaman]

BigAndy that is awesome - especially the black bean and tuna concoction - I am getting hungry! Sounds like I am not the only one who does strange things like eat a bowl of tuna with a jar of President's Choice 4-bean salad thrown in...

 

[BigAndy69]

BigAndy that is awesome - especially the black bean and tuna concoction - I am getting hungry! Sounds like I am not the only one who does strange things like eat a bowl of tuna with a jar of President's Choice 4-bean salad thrown in...

Yup, I love that stuff! I eat it everyday whether I'm bulking or cutting. It taste great if you add green onions, red and green pepper and a little balsamic vinegar. It also has 20g fiber which is a big plus.

 

[BigAndy69]

you asked for my advice, you won't like it, but here it is, don;t do that cycle without antiestrogens every single day. It is a big bad waste. You will get female levels of estrogen from 250mg/week testosterone, eventhough it is sucha a "light dose". 100mg/week is given for aggressive replacement purposes and this produces estradiol levels in the high normal range for men. To use testosterone without antiestrogens is very very stupiud, whenever using more than 100mg/week. Why do you think no one used the stuff when it first came out and used all the other synthetics instead? Because too much estrogne and they didn't have antiestrogens back then.

Right now your estradiol levels are quite normal. However 1-2 more injection and they should start to become undesireable. I would stop the stuff until you get nolva, arimidex or preferabnly the best stuff out there IMO, femara.

Good point, I overlooked that.