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Boldenone toxicity ...

eddymerckx said:
imo, of which i have no qualifications to render, is that it is no more hepatoxic that othwr injectables as it does not require some big ass benzene ring to survive the first pass through the liver. Although it's still metabol in the liver, the molecule is smaller and less likely to cause problems.

what you just said about pharmacokinetics makes no sense :)

al least that first part
 
Svizac said:
what you just said about pharmacokinetics makes no sense :)

al least that first part

my bad--i meant the addition of the 17 alpha alkylated to the outside ring to survive the first pass through the liver (e.g. equipoise v. d/bol virtually identical but for the CH3)---have not taken organic chem in 20 years--and benzene ring stuck in my head--which explains why i went into law
 
eddymerckx said:
my bad--i meant the addition of the 17 alpha alkylated to the outside ring to survive the first pass through the liver (e.g. equipoise v. d/bol virtually identical but for the CH3)---have not taken organic chem in 20 years--and benzene ring stuck in my head--which explains why i went into law


are you saying the benzene ring your speaking of is not the same chemical as in say an oil refinery that has benzene which will fuck you up and kill you from inhalation, absorbtion or injestion
 
samoth said:
Benzene is the common C6H6 ring:

benzene.jpg


This is not the same as a compound containing aromatic rings, which are many, e.g.:

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generally speaking, liver toxicity in the roid kingdom stems from orals 17aa modification to survive liver passage. Bold Undec is IM and not 17aa

I've never read anything implying classic EQ to be liver toxic.

Dont know about the new oral boldenones (a cylodextrin based sublingual and I THINK I remember reading about an UG pill form)
 
jagerbombme said:
are you saying the benzene ring your speaking of is not the same chemical as in say an oil refinery that has benzene which will fuck you up and kill you from inhalation, absorbtion or injestion


i am saying i called a 17 alk a benzene ring by mistake and then corrected it
 
Mavafanculo said:
generally speaking, liver toxicity in the roid kingdom stems from orals 17 alpha-alkylated modification to survive liver passage. Bold Undec is IM and not 17 alpha-alkylated

I've never read anything implying classic Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - to be liver toxic.

Dont know about the new oral boldenones (a cylodextrin based sublingual and I THINK I remember reading about an UG pill form)


i would imagine an oral eq/bold/ would have to have the extra CH3 to surive the first pass through the liver but i cannot think of any reason that an inj would need it b/c the Depot just releases directly into the bloodstream over time
 
eddymerckx said:
i would imagine an oral Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - /bold/ would have to have the extra CH3 to surive the first pass through the liver but i cannot think of any reason that an inj would need it b/c the Depot just releases directly into the bloodstream over time

agreeed
 
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