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High bp can. Which can be a side effect from test.
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Yep.
I was getting Blurry Vision on Cytostane. Was freaking me out.
but for some reason my BP was normal.
I am taking 750 a week right now with no problems. Man just shows how AAS effects us all so differently.
you can have totally normal bp and then have it go sky high on test
750 a week test is a high dose and will aromatize.. which will further push up your blood pressure..
what are your stats? age? height? weight? body fat?
^^^ yeah you are pretty heavy for your height. its likely high blood pressure. you would be best served dropping your dosage down to 500mg.... before you run a cycle always make sure you get your heart health in check, this means a lot of cardio and getting into top shape.
at your height a good weight to run a cycle for a young newb is gonna be about 205-210. 230 is too much.. and your body is telling you it is struggling to handle the extra water weight and the anabolic effect from the test. i know this isn't the answer you were looking for, but at your age to already have high blood pressure and dizzyness is unacceptable.. gotta do a better job of eating cleaner. gotta increase your weight gradually over time, a fast weight gain from water and fat is gonna always push your bp up... please please please listen to your body.
at your height a good weight to run a cycle for a young newb is gonna be about 205-210. 230 is too much.. and your body is telling you it is struggling to handle the extra water weight and the anabolic effect from the test. i know this isn't the answer you were looking for, but at your age to already have high blood pressure and dizzyness is unacceptable.. gotta do a better job of eating cleaner. gotta increase your weight gradually over time, a fast weight gain from water and fat is gonna always push your bp up... please please please listen to your body.
230 @ 15% isn't too heavy at all for 6'1". Just about every football player that is 6'1" is 230 and in great athletic shape. If you're 6'1" and 20% or more bodyfat, then you're too fat and should lose some fat.
As for the blurry vision, it could be hypertension caused by AAS, or it could be something else. Are you on any other drugs or prescription meds? Steve, I didn't see where OP said he also had dizziness???
You said it only happens 3-4 times a week? When does it happen? During strenuous activity? After a meal? Any specific times you've noticed? You could lower your dose to 500 as steve suggested and see if it goes away. That would be a logical place to start (as far as from what you've told us anyway).
As for the blurry vision, it could be hypertension caused by AAS, or it could be something else. Are you on any other drugs or prescription meds? Steve, I didn't see where OP said he also had dizziness???
You said it only happens 3-4 times a week? When does it happen? During strenuous activity? After a meal? Any specific times you've noticed? You could lower your dose to 500 as steve suggested and see if it goes away. That would be a logical place to start (as far as from what you've told us anyway).
I realize this but without a pic we really don't know his his approximate body fat. a lot of guys claim they are 15% when they are really 25%. i usualy don't pay attention to what someone says is their body fat unless they put up a pic.
some guy yesterday was complaining of symptoms and said he was 6 1 and 267 but claimed to be just 15% body fat.. i told him flat out that he was either built like a monster or he was more like 25-30%. when people overexxagerate their body fat stats it makes it difficult to give an honest opinion, thats why i always ask for pics
OP: if you have a pic please post it up!! we will be able to guestimate your body fat off the pic
Ripp42
Banned
Arabian what are you taking?
ask your buddy if gaining 25 pounds of water is the same as real muscle gains.. he probably thinks it is.
young guys are too worried about 'gaining weight' that they don't understand the difference between gaining muscle and gaining water/fat. anyone can gain a ton of water.. just run a ton of dbol and test with no AI.. but really whats the point of looking like a bloated fish?
Ripp42
Banned
Uh, no. Your having heath issues rite now. Get it looked at.
privatemdlabs.com
go there and order the "Hormone Panel for Females"
Includes:
-Estradiol, serum;
-Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH);
-Luteinizing Hormone (LH);
-Testosterone, serum;
-Complete Blood Count (CBC): Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count; red cell count; white blood cell count; immature granulocytes.
-Comprehensive Metabolic Profile (CMP): A:G ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; ALT (SGPT); AST (SGOT); bilirubin, total; BUN; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; creatinine, serum; globulin, total; glucose, serum; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum.
You can get a 15% off coupon if you search. I think XB49W8 should work. If not google privatemdlabs coupon and start trying codes. 15% off makes that test $50.99. It has Total Test, Estradiol (estrogen), FSH, LH, CBC and CMP. You can look at the important stuff in regards to AAS cycling. You can tell if your estrogen levels are too high, you can see your hemoglobin and hematocrit levels, check Test (make sure your stuff's real), and your ALT and AST (liver panel).
This is if you don't have insurance or if you just want to keep this info off your medical record, or don't want to have your doctor asking questions when your testosterone levels come back at 1500+ (sometimes they don't count higher than 1500), and running more tests on you and putting this all in your medical records. $50 is a small price to pay for that kind of privacy.
I bet your E2 is way high.
go there and order the "Hormone Panel for Females"
Includes:
-Estradiol, serum;
-Follicle-Stimulating Hormone (FSH);
-Luteinizing Hormone (LH);
-Testosterone, serum;
-Complete Blood Count (CBC): Hematocrit; hemoglobin; mean corpuscular volume (MCV); mean corpuscular hemoglobin (MCH); mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration (MCHC); red cell distribution width (RDW); percentage and absolute differential counts; platelet count; red cell count; white blood cell count; immature granulocytes.
-Comprehensive Metabolic Profile (CMP): A:G ratio; albumin, serum; alkaline phosphatase, serum; ALT (SGPT); AST (SGOT); bilirubin, total; BUN; BUN:creatinine ratio; calcium, serum; carbon dioxide, total; chloride, serum; creatinine, serum; globulin, total; glucose, serum; potassium, serum; protein, total, serum; sodium, serum.
You can get a 15% off coupon if you search. I think XB49W8 should work. If not google privatemdlabs coupon and start trying codes. 15% off makes that test $50.99. It has Total Test, Estradiol (estrogen), FSH, LH, CBC and CMP. You can look at the important stuff in regards to AAS cycling. You can tell if your estrogen levels are too high, you can see your hemoglobin and hematocrit levels, check Test (make sure your stuff's real), and your ALT and AST (liver panel).
This is if you don't have insurance or if you just want to keep this info off your medical record, or don't want to have your doctor asking questions when your testosterone levels come back at 1500+ (sometimes they don't count higher than 1500), and running more tests on you and putting this all in your medical records. $50 is a small price to pay for that kind of privacy.
I bet your E2 is way high.
JuiceIsMyFriend
New member
Lmao I bet ur a beast
if you want to pay for the male hormone panel you will fork over 150 bucks. so pick the female instead and save your money.
you ask a lot of questions bro, you need to trust us on here a bit more... we know what we are talking about and are here to help you. stop worrying
so much about the advice given to you and 2nd guessing everything. been at this game for a while as has the other mods/vets on here, we've seen it all, so no reason to second guess what we tell you
It's just a number of tests they compiled in a package deal that might be ordered as a basic panel for a female. When you order the test you will fill out a form online and tell them you are a male. And steve's right, the male package includes other tests and it costs like $150 or so. These are the basic tests that one should look at before/during/after a cycle. You could add a lipid panel for your cholesterol, but cholesterol will go up while on cycle and go back down after cycle, and isn't quite as immediately important to look at in general.
Really? Because if all you wanted in addition to the tests in the Hormone Panel for Females was the lipid panel, you can add that for $40.79, for a total of $91.78. The Hormone Panel for Males is $144.07. How is that worth it? Bad advice if bros are looking to save cash.
The other things the Male Panel adds is thyroid, free test, PSA and IGF-1. Thyroid is unnecessary in relation to AAS cycling unless you've been abusing T3. Free T is just a % of Total T (usually about 2%). You might be interested in PSA if you're over 45-50. And IGF-1 might be cool to see, but not necessary.
The extra tests (even lipids) in the Male Panel are not worth the extra $93.08 IMO for monitoring necessary elements on cycle for most bros. During cycle you should really pay attention to E2, hemoglobin and hematocrit. Those are the absolute necessities. Also it would be good to see your Total T levels to make sure your gear has some active hormone in it (esp if you're using UGL).
Between cycles you could add in the lipid panel. If you look at lipids during cycle, they're almost certain to be higher than normal. After cycle it will start to return to normal. It's always good to look at lipids at least once a year though. By the way...Cholesterol is the precursor to Testosterone, so eat your whole eggs, fish oils and other good fats!
If money is no object, go ahead and pay the extra $93 for the other tests every time. But I don't know why anyone would want to spend almost a hundred dollars they didn't have to spend. You could get almost 3 of the Female Panels for the price of 1 Male Panel.
Oh, one last thing I forgot...the Male Panel does NOT include FSH and LH! Those will of course be depressed during cycle, but they will be important to look at post cycle (or between cycles) to see how you are recovering the HPTA. Female Panel for the win.
bader85
New member
I was mainly referring to getting lipids due to this current problem. Last time I checked Lipids alone was over $100.. So I stand corrected, thanks CEO. I agree I wouldn't worry about the total male hormone while on cycle either, but with his condition the more he/we know I figure the better it would be to find out what's going on mainly involving his lipids too.
Thanks for the correction.
Thanks for the correction.
Ripp42
Banned
wold love to see before and after pics. this will be like my next cycle.
you figure out the blurred vision yet?
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