Blood work results. LOW TEST!!!!

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Hey bros I got my results back today and everything was within normal range except my testosterone levels which read 115.

I had my blood work done when I was in the middle of my clomid theropy.

My cycle was a simple test deca dbol cycle test and deca @500mg for 10-weeks.

He wants to get my blood tested again in 4 weeks. My question is would more clomid and maybe hcg boost my test levels back up.

He also wanted to point out that I may have naturaly low test levels. But for a healthy 21 year old they should be around 500-1000. Again mine were 115.

Thanks for the help
E

 

[Stillgoing]

How many weeks has it been since your last shot of test/deca?

 

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7 weeks

But I had my blood taken 4 or 5 weeks ago in the middle of my clomid and nolvadex theropy

 

[Stillgoing]

Well, a couple observations:

1- 4wks after a 10wk deca cycle you will only be finally clearing exogenous influences. This is probably a low point for natural T levels.

2- Clomid & nolv may artificially raise your levels somewhat. I have been told to get blood tested 2wks after finishing post-c therapy to make sure its influence (if any, better to be safe) has cleared and you are getting an accurate reading.

So, two potentially conflicting factors. 115 is quite low. Based on your age, I would be inclined to say wait a couple more weeks and get it tested again. But, there are many on the board more knowledgable in this area than me. Bump for Nelson, DrJMW, buffdoc, 40, vets.....

 

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bump for elite

 

[Nelson Montana]

So much for Clomid raising T. Clomid blows.

At any rate, 21 is way too young to have the T level of an 80 year old, even after a cycle. Was your TOTAL roid use 500ngs a week or was that just the deca? 10 weeks of d-bol will fuck up your HPTA real good.

Taking HCG will only give a false reading. Let them get an accurate number. It's too late to avaoid a crash anyway. I'll bet you've already lost some size. My advice is to stop Clomid (which may be supressing you further) and try again in a few weeks.

Not everyone reacts favorably to roids. or you may have a rare case of precocious hypogonadism. Or you just` did too much. Deal with it, and next time be smarter.

 

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Thank you for the replys.

My total gear usage was 1000mg a week 500mg test 500mg deca...

I wrote huck a personal email and he advised me of the following
"Yes,you're going to need to extend out your clomid therapy,and perhaps run 5 days of 2000i.u. of HCG daily as well.The deca has you shut down hard.---Huck "

I just took 100mg of clomid and 40mg of nolvadex.
Yes I hate to admit it but I have lost size but my lifts are strong. I dont like scales so I dont know my current weight. After my cycle I weighed in at 242.

Thanks again guys I hope we can get a concensis(sp) on this matter...

 

[Stillgoing]

Thank you for the replys.

My total gear usage was 1000mg a week 500mg test 500mg deca...

I wrote huck a personal email and he advised me of the following
"Yes,you're going to need to extend out your clomid therapy,and perhaps run 5 days of 2000i.u. of HCG daily as well.The deca has you shut down hard.---Huck "

I just took 100mg of clomid and 40mg of nolvadex.
Yes I hate to admit it but I have lost size but my lifts are strong. I dont like scales so I dont know my current weight. After my cycle I weighed in at 242.

Thanks again guys I hope we can get a concensis(sp) on this matter...

just an FYI - based on huck's response, you won't get consensus with Nelson. They just disagree on the matter. From my experience, I was 150 after a cycle, HCG/nolv got me only up to 270. I'm older than you as well though.

 

[40butpumpin]

Yeah I agree also, I have no need for Clomid. I'd do 2 solid weeks of HCG at 500iu ed and then get on some good quality trib for a month or two and then re-take the test. hth

 

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bump

 

[HEALTHFREAK]

My levels were 31ngs after doing a deca and winny cycle for 12 weeks. Deca is very hard to recover from. Your pituitary gland needs time to start signaling to make natural test. It took me 5 months to get my levels back to a healthy 577ngs. Also I think you need to wait at least another month while taking clomid, zinc, and tribestan (worked well for me), before getting tested again. You can also use nolvadex or better liquidex/arimidex for faster recovery, wish I did.

 

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I was in denial about the deca being such a touchy drug, due to the gains which I have had. My plans are to stay on clomid and im going to run hcg for 5 days or so using up an 10000iu kit. I will recheck my blood a few weeks after this theropy.

Thanks again E