Bloated face

[supra5469]

The past couple of mornings my face has been really bloated with puffiness under my eyes. People at work have said to me "Rough night?" and Its true, I look like I went out drinking all night. I'm in the second week of my cycle which consists of Test E 500mg/wk, Tbol60mg/wk, Hgh(Jin) 3iu's/d, and Igf-1 50mcg/d. I'm not sure if its the Test E starting to kick in or the Hgh that I started this Monday. I started taking LiquidFem 1.25mg/d and LiquidNol 40 mg/d for prevention of gyno this week also.

What is causing the bloat and what can I do to reduce the bloat and puffiness?

I need your help fellas!

K to any help

 

[yoop33]

Is it only when you wake up and then goes away by the end of the day? Maybe you are alergic to something in your bed or room. Pillow perhaps?

 

[supra5469]

It stays with me the whole day but it is really noticable in the morning. By mid morning the puffiness under the eyes will go away but the face will still be bloated

 

[BigCracker]

Why are you taking nolva? Do you have gyno? Nolva will comprimise your gains from AAS so it shouldn't be used unless it's absolutely necessary. Everybody seems so gyno paranoid these days. Keep in mind that bitch tits usually come rather slowly over time, so you'll have some advanced warning before you need a bra . It's not like you're gonna wake up w/ manboobs overnight. If you're prone to gyno or getting symptoms, that's when Nolva is necessary. Otherwise it will only hinder your gains.

A-dex is supposed to help w/ facial puffiness, but from what I've seen it doesn't help that much for some guys. Everyone is different-some get puffier cheeks than others. I wouldn't sweat it-it's just another side effect like acne, increased sex drive, etc.

 

[steelmass]

Why are you taking nolva? Do you have gyno? Nolva will comprimise your gains from AAS so it shouldn't be used unless it's absolutely necessary. Everybody seems so gyno paranoid these days. Keep in mind that bitch tits usually come rather slowly over time, so you'll have some advanced warning before you need a bra . It's not like you're gonna wake up w/ manboobs overnight. If you're prone to gyno or getting symptoms, that's when Nolva is necessary. Otherwise it will only hinder your gains.

A-dex is supposed to help w/ facial puffiness, but from what I've seen it doesn't help that much for some guys. Everyone is different-some get puffier cheeks than others. I wouldn't sweat it-it's just another side effect like acne, increased sex drive, etc.

Does everyone agree nolva will comprimise your gains? I didn't think it would.

 

[BigCracker]

Does everyone agree nolva will comprimise your gains? I didn't think it would.

It's a known fact that nolva will compete with the AAS at the receptor sites. Like anything else w/ AAS it will affect some guys more than others. I say if you aere trying to gain strength/size and you aren't getting symptoms of gyno you don't need it.

Ask Mr X-I think he'll agree w/ me.

 

[supra5469]

I'm using Nolva because I am prone to gyno and do have the manboobs. My nipples were sensitive and glands behind my nipples were sore thats why I was using nolv. I'm glad to report that the letro and nolv is helping. I thought the Letro would help with the bloat also but...Isn't Letro just a stronger version of A-dex?

I read somewhere that if its your first time taking Hgh it can cause face to bloat. Anyone confirm this?

 

[gautho]

I'm with Bigcracker 100% on this one.

 

[BigCracker]

Then you're probably OK. Any comprimise in gains will probably be worth preventing your gyno from getting worse. I've never heard of GH making anyone bloated-although I get the flu after using it about 2 weeks every time. A lot of guys I know have the same prob.

 

[gautho]

I get facial bloat. But I can't solely blame it on the GH when i'm using other stuff with it as well.

 

[Mr.X]

The past couple of mornings my face has been really bloated with puffiness under my eyes. People at work have said to me "Rough night?" and Its true, I look like I went out drinking all night. I'm in the second week of my cycle which consists of Test E 500mg/wk, Tbol60mg/wk, Hgh(Jin) 3iu's/d, and Igf-1 50mcg/d. I'm not sure if its the Test E starting to kick in or the Hgh that I started this Monday. I started taking LiquidFem 1.25mg/d and LiquidNol 40 mg/d for prevention of gyno this week also.

What is causing the bloat and what can I do to reduce the bloat and puffiness?

I need your help fellas!

K to any help

GH tends to make users retain water, that's most likely the cause of the problem.

 

[bigjd69]

HGH and the Test could be making you hold the extra water. Try drinking 1-2 gallons of distilled water aday, increase your aerobics, and or try going into a steam room

 

[Mr.X]

It's a known fact that nolva will compete with the AAS at the receptor sites. Like anything else w/ AAS it will affect some guys more than others. I say if you aere trying to gain strength/size and you aren't getting symptoms of gyno you don't need it.

Ask Mr X-I think he'll agree w/ me.

Although nolva is a SERM, it is not the basis for the "reduced gains" theory. The theory was originally floated by Dan Duchaine, when he read a study where slight reduction in IGF-1 was reported in nolvadex users. None of the users in the study were on AS or even a strict diet/training regiment. Thus, his theory was, lower IGF-1 = less gains. If this is true, i.e. lower IGF levels, it's very minor, as many have made great gains while on nolvadex.

 

[NYBodyguard]

i take novla and adex 1mg ed that helped with facial bloat i also take 6 xpel capsuls a day

i have the same face bloat prob

 

[bbkingpin]

Does everyone agree nolva will comprimise your gains? I didn't think it would.

Absolutely not. Even so, it's not worth the risk. Gyno is emotionally devastating and hinders gains (aesthetic gains) more than anything else. Unless you are a competitive powerlifter, what gains are you speaking of? Strength gains? It's nice to be able to take your shirt off without worrying about gyno, especially with the Summer almost here.

BTW, it's the test e and/or hGH bro. Go with the letro or a-dex for minimizing bloat from test-e. 3 ius per day of Jino isn't too high so if its causing some water retention (which hGH absolutely will), perhaps it will subside soon once your body acclimates to the hGH, since 3 ius is relatively low to moderate dose. Don't get me wrong, 1 mg of hGH is an effective dose.

 

[supra5469]

Absolutely not. Even so, it's not worth the risk. Gyno is emotionally devastating and hinders gains (aesthetic gains) more than anything else. Unless you are a competitive powerlifter, what gains are you speaking of? Strength gains? It's nice to be able to take your shirt off without worrying about gyno, especially with the Summer almost here.

BTW, it's the test e and/or hGH bro. Go with the letro or a-dex for minimizing bloat from test-e. 3 ius per day of Jino isn't too high so if its causing some water retention (which hGH absolutely will), perhaps it will subside soon once your body acclimates to the hGH, since 3 ius is relatively low to moderate dose. Don't get me wrong, 1 mg of hGH is an effective dose.

I think you may have hit the nail on the head. I'm sure I'm getting some bloat from the test e but I think it may be being a first time user of Hgh and not gradually upping(not sure if that a word) the iu's may be the cause. I beleive it will subside once my body get acclimated to hgh.

Should I just stick with 1.25 mg/d of Letro?

 

[bbkingpin]

I think you may have hit the nail on the head. I'm sure I'm getting some bloat from the test e but I think it may be being a first time user of Hgh and not gradually upping(not sure if that a word) the iu's may be the cause. I beleive it will subside once my body get acclimated to hgh.

Should I just stick with 1.25 mg/d of Letro?

Just keep in mind letro will shut down all estrogen which will lead to zero sex drive. That's why a-dex or aromasin are preferred because they do not prevent 100% aromatase conversion. Letro is so potent that it will eliminate almost 100% of estrogen which in turn shuts down libido. So you will not enjoy the kind of sex drive you may be used to from test e if you take letro. But, on the other hand, you will not have to worry about gyno.
I would, in the future, get the gyno taken care of from a reputable cosmetic surgeon. They take out the swollen breast tissue and lliposuction off the surrounding fat. And, after the surgery, continue to use anti-e's to prevent any future fat/gyno in the chest area. Then you can finally have a table top chest, instead of being lumpy.

 

[X Man]

The past couple of mornings my face has been really bloated with puffiness under my eyes. People at work have said to me "Rough night?" and Its true, I look like I went out drinking all night. I'm in the second week of my cycle which consists of Test E 500mg/wk, Tbol60mg/wk, Hgh(Jin) 3iu's/d, and Igf-1 50mcg/d. I'm not sure if its the Test E starting to kick in or the Hgh that I started this Monday. I started taking LiquidFem 1.25mg/d and LiquidNol 40 mg/d for prevention of gyno this week also.

What is causing the bloat and what can I do to reduce the bloat and puffiness?

I need your help fellas!

K to any help

llets not forget that u need to be drinkiing a lot of water like a gallon to 2 gallons a day...that should hellp flush out ur system and reduce any water retention

 

[Prizz]

The Femera will help, but you might need a natural diuretic too like Dandilion root or something like that..... Femera will not prevent water retention from GH, not sure if anything will except diuretics......

rizz

 

[Mr.X]

I think you may have hit the nail on the head. I'm sure I'm getting some bloat from the test e but I think it may be being a first time user of Hgh and not gradually upping(not sure if that a word) the iu's may be the cause. I beleive it will subside once my body get acclimated to hgh.

Should I just stick with 1.25 mg/d of Letro?

Letro will help, but if it's bloat from the GH you will need to try a diuretic.

Natural OTC diuretics:
vitamin C, dandelion root, glycerin, and caffeine
increase water intake and start taking in distilled water instead of bottled

 

[BigCracker]

Although nolva is a SERM, it is not the basis for the "reduced gains" theory. The theory was originally floated by Dan Duchaine, when he read a study where slight reduction in IGF-1 was reported in nolvadex users. None of the users in the study were on AS or even a strict diet/training regiment. Thus, his theory was, lower IGF-1 = less gains. If this is true, i.e. lower IGF levels, it's very minor, as many have made great gains while on nolvadex.

Hmmmm... I stand corrected. My mental data base has just been updated-at least I thought I was right, but my 411 was simply outdated I guess?