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Swanson1203

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I'm getting ready to come off a very successful cycle of test e, tren, and EQ. Gained a solid 15 pounds of muscle and maintained a 10% body fat. It's now time to cleanse my receptors and give my body a break. My question is would this be okay for a 8 week cruise of the following: ?

Test E at 250 a week
Tbol pre workout at 40mg

I usually just use test e at 250 for a cruise but wanted the little extra pump and strength pre workout.

So is adding tbol okay ?

Thanks to all who reply !
 
I'm new to cruising and have gotten a lot of feed back on the best way to let your system recover during these off cycle periods. I'm currently using 180 mg a week, ,which has my Test level at around 700. IMO, 250 a week plus Tbol is just staying on.
 
Well I'm already on trt. I just want my receptors to be fresh for the next blast in 8 weeks so I get the best of my gear. Would 40mg of tbol be too much for the receptors to recover ? I was thinking it can help me maintain some hardness and strength during my cruise while prepping for the hard stuff for my next blast. But if tbol is just gonna make my gear of my next blast less effective because of receptors not fully clearing I won't use it. Opinions please ?
 
Decided not to add tbol and just run test at 250 a week for 6-8 weeks til my next blast. Now just curious to know do you guys run an ai on your cruise ?
 
Its all down to your personal stats. The only way to be sure is bloods, but 8 weeks is a relatively short time to be in between cycles. How long was your last cycle, and how long will your next one be?
 
Oh I thought 8-10 weeks was the typical cruise time all depending on blood work of course. My last blast was a 16 weeks consisting of test,tren,eq and Winn. I was planning my next blast to be the same duration and same anabolics except I'm going to use var instead of Winn this time.
 
Everyone is different, and without knowing your entire AAS history it may be hard to give a clear answer. I pay a great deal of attention to the main guys here, stevesmi especially as he advocates less is more. Less gear, shorter cycles, etc. From my studies on the subject, I'm sticking with the time on cycle=time off cycle. Like you, I am new to cruising, but was encouraged to see my bloods show Test just above normal 9 weeks after my last cycle pin while on 180mg of Test e a week, split in 2. I'm hoping this means I'm using the least amount of gear possible to maintain my gains while my body gets ready for my next blast. Of course, I'm doing a SARMS bridge during this time as it is less suppressing than gear, and I continue to use the mirror and scale to guide my diet. There is always information to learn, and as long as your checking your bloods you will be able to refine whatever your doing.
 
Yeah I just wanna get the best of my gear when it's time to blast again so was just curious how long it takes to clear all receptors and of course health always is 1st priority. I will probably add some ostrarine to my cruise. This is my 1st cruise btw.
 
So on my cruise what dosage of ostarine would you recommend ? I've read that 25-50mg is the proper dosage for a cruise. I was planning on a 10 week cruise.
 
Swanson1203 said:
Yeah I just wanna get the best of my gear when it's time to blast again so was just curious how long it takes to clear all receptors and of course health always is 1st priority. I will probably add some ostrarine to my cruise. This is my 1st cruise btw.
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Just to clear things up, you don't ever "clear receptors". Your androgen receptors are always there ready to be used regardless of how long you've been on. What you have to do is bring down myostatin. It is what rises once you go on cycle, and keeps you from gaining more muscle past the 8 week mark or so of a cycle. Myostatin remains high until you come off or go down to a cruise dose to bring it down to normal levels. It takes a good 10-12 weeks at normal levels for this to happen. It has nothing to do with androgen receptors
 
Oh okay I've alway thought that the receptors needed a break. I read an analogy on a different forum. It stated " think of your receptors as a parking lot. Many cars (androgens) are parking in the parking lot and gets full and there is now no parking. So giving your receptors a break helps empties the parking lot for new androgens to come next cycle. Sounds kind of silly but makes somewhat sense I guess. I never considered myostatin being the reason of gains slowing down after 8 weeks. It's very interesting. Thanks for the reply too.
 
Swanson1203 said:
Oh okay I've alway thought that the receptors needed a break. I read an analogy on a different forum. It stated " think of your receptors as a parking lot. Many cars (androgens) are parking in the parking lot and gets full and there is now no parking. So giving your receptors a break helps empties the parking lot for new androgens to come next cycle. Sounds kind of silly but makes somewhat sense I guess. I never considered myostatin being the reason of gains slowing down after 8 weeks. It's very interesting. Thanks for the reply too.
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Part of what you are saying is correct, including the parking lot analogy...but it is correct in terms of you only have so many androgen receptors ( only so many parking spaces). What this means is that there are diminished returns from running huh amounts of gear. There comes a point where adding more AAS does not give you the equal amount of result. Once those androgen receptors become saturated, more gear isn't going to do much. It still has nothing to do with why gains stall out during a cycle.

Myostatin is the reason that happens. As an example, a vast majority of the IFBB pros have a myostatin deficiency at the MSTN gene. What this means is that their gains do not stall out from rising myostatin unlike the rest of us, and it allows them to just keep growing and growing.
 
Damn imagine if they had a legit myostatin inhibitor. It would change the game completely. You were very helpful and have one more question if u don't mind. I'm new to SARMS and wanted to give them a try during my cruise. Now I know I can get the liquid from a research lab but I can also get a bottle of ostra rx. Does it matter which one I get ? Is the research chems going to be more effective ?
 
I have seen places offer myostatin inhibitors but I would be weary of them
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I've read some posts about increased strength that stayed permanently after stopping use. I wish one of our sponsors had this.
 
Swanson1203 said:
Damn imagine if they had a legit myostatin inhibitor. It would change the game completely. You were very helpful and have one more question if u don't mind. I'm new to SARMS and wanted to give them a try during my cruise. Now I know I can get the liquid from a research lab but I can also get a bottle of ostra rx. Does it matter which one I get ? Is the research chems going to be more effective ?
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I can't really comment on the Osta-RX product, because I've never used it or heard much about it. I can vouch for the quality of Sarms1 though. It's definitely the highest grade of SARMS I've used. Ostarine can be very beneficial as a bridge between cycles, and it does great for helping your joints recover too.
 
As for myostatin inhibitors, they have been around forever, but there is still nothing that has been released to actually show being effective in any way. Scientists are continually working on trying to produce something effective, as it would have a very big market in medicine for those will degenerative muscle wasting diseases. But, as of yet, even Follostatin comes up short on delivering anything worth having any benefit
 
How is the ostarine from sarms1 rickrock13? Have you tried it ? Trying to come to a conclusion who has good quality ostarine. I've had bad experiences with chem labs in the past.
 
Swanson1203 said:
Oh okay I've alway thought that the receptors needed a break. I read an analogy on a different forum. It stated " think of your receptors as a parking lot. Many cars (androgens) are parking in the parking lot and gets full and there is now no parking. So giving your receptors a break helps empties the parking lot for new androgens to come next cycle. Sounds kind of silly but makes somewhat sense I guess. I never considered myostatin being the reason of gains slowing down after 8 weeks. It's very interesting. Thanks for the reply too.
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The parking lot analogy is somewhat correct, except when a car is in a spot (ie androgen is in receptor) then its working its magic. The receptor clears when the androgen has been "used up" and is ready for another androgen. It doesnt matter if your on cycle or off, the process is the same, its just when on cycle you have a lot more androgen to do its job. Your body has far more parking spots than cars.

Having said all that, when your on a cycle your consuming resources at an accelerated rate yet you are not taking in nutrients (think minerals and vitamins) to match that rate and when you tap out the body so much that it has to prioritize basic function over muscle basic function will always take precedence.

Additionally your gonna have to pay the piper sooner rather than later running a cruise of 250mg.

I would wager 99% of the people on this board are deficient in at least 1 nutrient, have a skewed ratio of various nutrients or have excessive toxicity which creates a false deficiency. So when you cycle your already starting at a disadvantage, its only a matter of time before the body puts on the breaks to focus on the basic bodily functions.
 
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Zyglamail said:
The parking lot analogy is somewhat correct, except when a car is in a spot (ie androgen is in receptor) then its working its magic. The receptor clears when the androgen has been"used up" and is ready for another androgen. It doesnt matter if your on cycle or off, the process is the same, its just when on cycle you have a lot more androgen to do its job. Your body has far more parking spots than cars.

Having said all that, when your on a cycle your consuming resources at an accelerated rate yet you are not taking in nutrients (think minerals and vitamins) to match that rate and when you tape out the body so much that it has to prioritize basic function over muscle basic function will always take precedence.

Additionally your gonna have to pay the piper sooner rather than later running a cruise of 250mg.

I would wager 99% of the people on this board are deficient in at least 1 nutrient, have a skewed ratio of various nutrients or have excessive toxicity which creates a false deficiency. So when you cycle your already starting at a disadvantage, its only a matter of time before the body puts on the breaks to focus on the basic bodily functions.
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Swanson1203 said:
How is the ostarine from sarms1 rickrock13? Have you tried it ? Trying to come to a conclusion who has good quality ostarine. I've had bad experiences with chem labs in the past.
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I ran their triple stack and the results were simply awesome. Lost some bf and added quite a bit of strength
 
Swanson1203 said:
How is the ostarine from sarms1 rickrock13? Have you tried it ? Trying to come to a conclusion who has good quality ostarine. I've had bad experiences with chem labs in the past.
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Their Ostarine is very high quality, and among the best Ive used. You wouldn't be disappointed with any of their products
 
Hey guys just wondering if a 4 week cruise is enough time off for another 8 week cycle ? My blood work just came back and everything is good to go so is it alright to run a 8 week of anavar and low test cycle to help cut the little fat I have and to dry out a bit ? Or should I wait the full 8-10 weeks cruise to be up. Just wondering cause blood work says I'm good.
 
Swanson1203 said:
Hey guys just wondering if a 4 week cruise is enough time off for another 8 week cycle ? My blood work just came back and everything is good to go so is it alright to run a 8 week of anavar and low test cycle to help cut the little fat I have and to dry out a bit ? Or should I wait the full 8-10 weeks cruise to be up. Just wondering cause blood work says I'm good.
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Really? What does it matter, your cruise dose is so high, dont even bother cycling, just stay on till your body craps out. Seems to me you are just looking for people to validate your poor choices.
 
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