bicep blaster

[mickeys]

try this... it will hurt, i promise.

1. go to a bicep curl machine, or a preacher curl machine

2. put the weight at a comfortable position where you can get 10 reps without too muich strain. i put mine on 70.

3. perform 10 reps, then drop the weight down to 60 (or 10lbs ligther from whatever you have)

4. perform 15 reps. then quickly drop the weight 10 more lbs

5. by this time you'll be in agony and the pump will be excruciating. get a spotter and do 20 reps! it will feel like he is doing ALL the work you wont even be able to move your arms but keep going.

do 2 sets of this routine. then go to a low cable and get a ez bar, and do reverse curls, 4x10

good luck

 

[strangebrew]

no thanks.

 

[bigstve12]

looks like a typical drop set...except for the set with the spotter doing all the work...i like to lift my own weights, thanks

 

[Synpax]

Why use a machine?

 

[t3c]

i'll try this tonight.

 

[psychedout]

I like drop sets with bb curls. I don't touch machines though.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

No machines for Bi's or easy curl bars for me. For that matter I don't preach anymore either.

 

[Debaser]

try this... it will hurt, i promise.

I bet if you quit trying to make your biceps hurt as much as possible, you might get somewhere. You're only using 70 lbs? If you could curl 150 lbs how much bigger do you think they'd be? Stop worrying about shocking muscles (a worthless principle) and instead worry about adding weight.

 

[mickeys]

don't talk about this if you haven't tried it. i will be one of most intense bicep workouts you've had in awhile.. just try it, it's good to switch up often anyway.

a trainer from the Golds I go to showed me this, his workouts are pretty awesome and intense, and it shows too from his size, symmetry and won competitions. stick to your usual workout if u want but i get bored and like to add in some things like this to shock my muscles.

good luck..

 

[mickeys]

Re: Re: bicep blaster

I bet if you quit trying to make your biceps hurt as much as possible, you might get somewhere. You're only using 70 lbs? If you could curl 150 lbs how much bigger do you think they'd be? Stop worrying about shocking muscles (a worthless principle) and instead worry about adding weight.

yes i'm ONLY using 70lbs.. i'm worried about weight lifting and building my muscles, not about my ego.

 

[Debaser]

If you're worried about building your muscles, then you should know that progressive load is what will do it (adding weight to the bar each session). There is no way to "shock growth" into a muscle. All you're doing is hampering your recovery.

 

[mickeys]

there are more than one single method to build muscle.. maxing out, drop sets, super sets, pyramiding up, etc. Also, I didn't just pull this routine out of my ass, a competitive bodybuilder of 18 years showed me it, and I liked it. I don't know if it is his usual routine or what.

And there is ways to "shock growth" into your muscles, why do you think that it is beneficial to switch up your routine monthly? because your muscles become accustomed to some excercises, and need to be shocked with new excercises.

 

[TheOak84]

And there is ways to "shock growth" into your muscles, why do you think that it is beneficial to switch up your routine monthly? because your muscles become accustomed to some excercises, and need to be shocked with new excercises.

Never mind Debaser, he thinks he inveted weight lifting

 

[Tagio]

sometimes i set my alarm for 4:00 A.M. and when it goes off i scream as loud as I can and jump out of my bed and rep out curls to extreme failure. then i whack my bis to shit with an aluminum bat. it surprises the fuck out of them.

oh yah im reppin out with 35 lbs these days, dont knock it till you try it

 

[Tagio]

also i noticed my left bi wasnt as full and cut as my right so i started slamming it in the car door once a week to shock it, worked like a charm, my symmetry is perfect now. both arms are exaclty 12.455 inches

 

[MrMuscle]

one word twentyones

 

[Debaser]

there are more than one single method to build muscle.. maxing out, drop sets, super sets, pyramiding up, etc. Also, I didn't just pull this routine out of my ass, a competitive bodybuilder of 18 years showed me it, and I liked it. I don't know if it is his usual routine or what.

You're missing the point. PROGRESSIVE LOAD IS WHAT BUILDS MUSCLE. PERIOD. If you're doing a dropset every week, as long as you're doing a bigger dropset the next week you're doing okay. Now of course, there's really no point to do the dropset because you can easily add weight without it. And who cares if a bodybuilder showed you that? I know 250-300 lb lean guys who do 1 set per bodypart. What does it matter? Just about anything will work to a degree if you use steroids and/or have good genetics.

And there is ways to "shock growth" into your muscles, why do you think that it is beneficial to switch up your routine monthly? because your muscles become accustomed to some excercises, and need to be shocked with new excercises.

It's NOT beneficial to switch up your routine monthly. In fact it's counterproductive. Your muscles do not “adapt” to a certain routine, thereby requiring that you “change it up” constantly (the result of slow or nonexistent progress for many). Muscles don't know what the hell you're doing to them, only that they're experiencing tension. They adapt to a certain load, requiring that you increase said load next time around, but that’s all. Muscles are not intelligent.

If you stuck to one basic routine for the past year, you'd probably have at least 20 more lbs of muscle than you do now. You need to forget about shocking muscles (BECAUSE THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE), and worry about adding some damn weight to the bar, because THAT is what builds muscle. When you can bench 350, squat 500 and deadlift 600+ you will be a much bigger guy than you are now.

 

[Debaser]

Never mind Debaser, he thinks he inveted weight lifting

Ironic then that the people who did "invent weightlifting" didn't do any kind of "shocking" whatsoever. Funny how this principle didn't come along until the steroid and muscle magazine era. Thank Weider, he's obviously the expert on muscle growth. And he's a standup guy--it's not like he was trying to sell you anything, right?

 

[TheOak84]

whatever. i agree that overloading does build muscle.. but its not the only way. i believe the 'weider principles' do work, i dont care if he did or didnt 'invent' them. actually i was using drop sets, super sets and pyramiding and forced reps way before i picked up a muscle and fitness and read anything about working out.. i used them because i saw results, and i still do see results.

 

[HodgeMN]

sometimes i set my alarm for 4:00 A.M. and when it goes off i scream as loud as I can and jump out of my bed and rep out curls to extreme failure. then i whack my bis to shit with an aluminum bat. it surprises the fuck out of them.

also i noticed my left bi wasnt as full and cut as my right so i started slamming it in the car door once a week to shock it, worked like a charm, my symmetry is perfect now. both arms are exaclty 12.455 inches

Laughed so hard when I read this my admin was wondering what was so funny. A much needed laugh during a hard day at work!

 

[NWinters]

what about pyramids? Whats your philosophy on these Debaser?

 

[Debaser]

what about pyramids? Whats your philosophy on these Debaser?

There's no point. Though some people say pyramid as a fancy word for "warming up." Of course warming up is important.

 

[Prime Rib]

Lay off the guy fellas. IMO he's just sharing something that made his workout feel better. Wether or not it's general fact in the world of strength training, he's allowed to share. I do all kinds of shit that people would think was rediculous but some of it actually works for me when everybody else said it wouldn't..

Josh

 

[breathinbleedout]

Lay off the guy fellas. IMO he's just sharing something that made his workout feel better. Wether or not it's general fact in the world of strength training, he's allowed to share. I do all kinds of shit that people would think was rediculous but some of it actually works for me when everybody else said it wouldn't..

word

 

[mickeys]

If you're doing a dropset every week, as long as you're doing a bigger dropset the next week you're doing okay.

thank you captain obvious.. the point of body building is to get stronger and make progress, duh.

It's NOT beneficial to switch up your routine monthly. In fact it's counterproductive. Your muscles do not “adapt” to a certain routine, thereby requiring that you “change it up” constantly (the result of slow or nonexistent progress for many). Muscles don't know what the hell you're doing to them, only that they're experiencing tension. They adapt to a certain load, requiring that you increase said load next time around, but that’s all. Muscles are not intelligent.

that is your opinion ,and I will respect it. But doing the exact same 3 or 4 excercises every week for a year would be less beneficial than doing a slightly different routine every 1-2 months to keep my muscles guessing. It's like if you always do flat barbell bench press and incline barbell bench press.. then suddenly one day decide to do flat dumbell and incline dumbell press. the next day you may feel more sore.. because its a different excercise your muscles are not used to.

If you stuck to one basic routine for the past year, you'd probably have at least 20 more lbs of muscle than you do now.

lol.. what a bold statement..

You need to forget about shocking muscles (BECAUSE THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE), and worry about adding some damn weight to the bar, because THAT is what builds muscle.

tell me something I don't know buddy.. my goal isn't to 'shock my muscles' every day.. obviously I am getting stronger, and bigger. And it's things like the bicep routine that I taught you that have helped me with my progress. I don't do that for every body part, just once in awhile, and it works. you should give it a try since you're so egotistic and skeptical.

When you can bench 350, squat 500 and deadlift 600+ you will be a much bigger guy than you are now.

lol.. why do you keep saying so obvious things. "if you can bench 800lbs you will be big and strong.


Drop the ego man.. you will get a lot farther in life, and body building. and remember, you are just another dude on elite fitness, you are not Gods gift to bodybuilding like you are acting.

I was simply trying to post something that helped me, if you dont' like it don't start preaching to me and everyone. All these worthless posts from you and me happened because I was trying to propose a new idea.. which is what message boards are about. Chill out.

Lay off the guy fellas. IMO he's just sharing something that made his workout feel better....

for real man! why is this guy so uptight?

 

[NWinters]

I really have a hard time believing alot of things you say Debaser. You hardley post your own numbers, no one has seen a picture of you, and again no one has seen your numbers. So how are we gonna know the things you say work best when we dont even know a damn thing about you? Sorry to but your chops again, but give me a break allready.

 

[Debaser]

I really have a hard time believing alot of things you say Debaser. You hardley post your own numbers, no one has seen a picture of you, and again no one has seen your numbers. So how are we gonna know the things you say work best when we dont even know a damn thing about you? Sorry to but your chops again, but give me a break allready.

I have posted my numbers, you must not have seen them. I'll post a pic when I'm good and ready. Since I'm still partly a bodybuilder I'm not bothering with it until I'm cut anyway. Besides, what the hell does this have to do with ANYTHING? Arguments are arguments and are not weighted depending on who you are. DC says mostly the same things I say, and he's 300+ lbs and lean. Good enough?

mickeys you equate presenting challenging arguments as being egotistical, and that sucks. For someone interested in iron, you have surprisingly thin skin.

 

[louden_swain]

I really have a hard time believing alot of things you say Debaser. You hardley post your own numbers, no one has seen a picture of you, and again no one has seen your numbers. So how are we gonna know the things you say work best when we dont even know a damn thing about you? Sorry to but your chops again, but give me a break allready.

Cha ching!!!

I rest my case.

 

[louden_swain]

try this... it will hurt, i promise.

1. go to a bicep curl machine, or a preacher curl machine

2. put the weight at a comfortable position where you can get 10 reps without too muich strain. i put mine on 70.

3. perform 10 reps, then drop the weight down to 60 (or 10lbs ligther from whatever you have)

4. perform 15 reps. then quickly drop the weight 10 more lbs

5. by this time you'll be in agony and the pump will be excruciating. get a spotter and do 20 reps! it will feel like he is doing ALL the work you wont even be able to move your arms but keep going.

do 2 sets of this routine. then go to a low cable and get a ez bar, and do reverse curls, 4x10

good luck

Interesting ideas. . . . . how often do you perform this technique?

 

[NWinters]

Debaser....It just seems like you doubt most of the routines that have worked for alot of people . A single routine isnt going to get one very far.

 

[Debaser]

Cha ching!!!

I rest my case.

Cha-ching!!! You're a jackass. You ask for help, BUT ONLY FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR. The minute someone says something you don't like, you crack like an egg or just ignore it. You did it to me (who was trying to help your injury but now you can be in a full body cast for all I fucking care), you did it to b fold and a couple others whose names I can't recall at this moment.

 

[Debaser]

Debaser....It just seems like you doubt most of the routines that have worked for alot of people . A single routine isnt going to get one very far.

The problem is, and I'm quoting casualbb on this, is that training (in general) "works" to a degree. I'm sure I could do 12 sets for my chest and it would still grow, to a point. Does this mean that you shouldn't search for a better, more productive way? Of course not.

And a single routine CAN get one very far. Cases in point: Westside. Hardgainer magazine. DC training. HST. There are several people on each of these routines that don't "switch it up" and have made constant gains.

Do you think after you gain XX lbs of muscle on, say, DC training, your body is going to say "whoops, that's too much, until he changes his set and rep scheme we're going to stay at this weight." No way. Your body does not adapt in that way. Your muscles merely adapt to a certain load, requiring that you increase the load each session to make progress.