best way to run these?

[triggernigha]

guys

if you had test propinoate, trenbolone and winstrol (all injectable)

whats the best way to run these for a 12 week cycle. i.e. dosages, shooting schedule etc.

will be using arimidex to keep estrogen in check if need be (ok while using tren?), will continue during P C T and will use H G C throughout cycle and for P C T at around 100 iu ed/eod but i hear you need something special for progesterone sides from tren? what is the ancillary thats needed to combat these, casaber? what sort of dosages should this be run at and are there anything i should be aware of using these compounds?

help would be appreciated. this may not be my first cycle, but its an option i have for the future

training a few years, never used aas, 5 ' 8", 215 lbs, bout 10% BF, diet etc all in check.

 

[nydj66]

Trenbolone is tricky for a first cycle since some people can't tolerate the sides. Plus you'll be using 3 different compounds; all new to you. It's not the wisest first cycle.

That being said, my all-time favorite cycle is 50mg/day of each of the 3 steroids you mentioned for 6 weeks. 6 weeks is plenty for that cycle.

At those dosages you can probably get away with no ancillaries. Arimidex is fine to run with trenbolone if you need it and winstrol has anti-progestagenic properties so cabaser will likely not be needed.

Almost nobody does 12 weeks of trenbolone acetate since insomnia and lethargy are common sides (as are aggression, acne, and night sweats). And, 12 weeks of a 17AA steroid like winstrol is not adviseable due to liver toxicity (and no, it's not that much easier on your liver to inject it).

While I'm on the subject of winstrol, I always take it orally (yes, you can drink the liquid) because water-based gear like winstrol carries the highest risk of an abcess and the loss of efficiency from taking it orally is negligible.

Run the H C G at 250IU twice weekly throughout the cycle but none during P C T. One week after your last injection, start 50mg/day of clomid for 4 weeks.

There it is, good luck (if you do decide to do this for a first cycle).

 

[triggernigha]

Trenbolone is tricky for a first cycle since some people can't tolerate the sides. Plus you'll be using 3 different compounds; all new to you. It's not the wisest first cycle.

That being said, my all-time favorite cycle is 50mg/day of each of the 3 steroids you mentioned for 6 weeks. 6 weeks is plenty for that cycle.

At those dosages you can probably get away with no ancillaries. Arimidex is fine to run with trenbolone if you need it and winstrol has anti-progestagenic properties so cabaser will likely not be needed.

Almost nobody does 12 weeks of trenbolone acetate since insomnia and lethargy are common sides (as are aggression, acne, and night sweats). And, 12 weeks of a 17 alpha-alkylated steroid like winstrol is not adviseable due to liver toxicity (and no, it's not that much easier on your liver to inject it).

While I'm on the subject of winstrol, I always take it orally (yes, you can drink the liquid) because water-based gear like winstrol carries the highest risk of an abcess and the loss of efficiency from taking it orally is negligible.

Run the H C G at 250IU twice weekly throughout the cycle but none during P C T. One week after your last injection, start 50mg/day of clomid for 4 weeks.

There it is, good luck (if you do decide to do this for a first cycle).

Thanks for the advice man.

I agree the above would not be a good first timer, i am going to do a test only cycle first to see how i get on. the above is research for future.

would the addition of winstrol @50 mg day for the last 4 weeks of a test only cycle be a good idea - i thought it would help harden up? or best not to do it on a first cycle?

 

[nydj66]

Thanks for the advice man.

I agree the above would not be a good first timer, i am going to do a test only cycle first to see how i get on. the above is research for future.

would the addition of winstrol @50 mg day for the last 4 weeks of a test only cycle be a good idea - i thought it would help harden up? or best not to do it on a first cycle?

Finishing a first-time test cycle with an oral (usually wisntrol or anavar) is fine since you will start the different gear at different times and can gauge the effects of each seperately.

 

[jmead]

the winny is a good addition to the end of your first test only cycle..

tren for longer than 6-8 weeks sides can really start to get to you, im on week 8 now..ive never had acne from gear. started to break out in week 7, with no change in diet or ancilliaries insomnia is really gettin bad.. tren aint no bitch, but the results are amazing.. learn your body and how it reacts before you get too complicated with your cycles