Best cycle for strength + lean mass

[tonyroma]

My buddies got pretty good budget saved for gear ($400-$500 for UG prices). He's 23, 6'1, 180lbs, and about 14%bf and has been lifting for about 2 years. I know what shit I like to use for my gains, but he's trying to gain as much strength/mass and still stay lean. Vets, whats your best choice's for gear/anti-e's and how much/long should he run it? Also this is his first cycle.....

 

[pavlenko]

simple, test-e week 1-10 ,500mg

 

[tonyroma]

simple, test-e week 1-10 ,500mg

Only test e? Saves him like 350$ - is that because he should get use to the sides?

 

[OMEGA]

Test E or Sus
Creatine ( I love MCC)
some type of Stimulant Prewokout for intensity.

AI as well in MODERATION

that will do it

 

[tonyroma]

Test E or Sus
Creatine ( I love MCC)
some type of Stimulant Prewokout for intensity.

AI as well in MODERATION

that will do it

What about adding Var and/or Win to the test?

 

[bmcadoo44]

I would say Test E 500mg a week for 10 weeks stacked with Primo at 600mg would do great.

 

[OMEGA]

Var basically help abit with Extra Protein sythesis

but it also increases endogenous ATP production ( creatine)
and possibly collagen

still think at your level Creatine will be enough of a add on

Winnie? its does make the test you take go "farther" by binding onto SHBG (sex hormone-binding globulin).

but its 17AA as well and long term use is kinds a nono unwritten rule

Proviron may be better

 

[tonyroma]

See I was thinkin of something like Tren A, Masteron, Test P. But I wouldn't know how much/long he should run it?

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

See I was thinkin of something like Tren A, Masteron, Test P. But I wouldn't know how much/long he should run it?

That's what i would do. Tren is a bit much for a first timer but the gains would be sick. I can't even imagine the gains from a first ever cycle consisting of 75mg of tren ace ED and 75mg of prop ED. I'd do it but i'm crazy

 

[bmcadoo44]

That's what i would do. Tren is a bit much for a first timer but the gains would be sick. I can't even imagine the gains from a first ever cycle consisting of 75mg of tren ace ED and 75mg of prop ED. I'd do it but i'm crazy

I was about to tell him to do Tren with some Test and winstrol but i read that it was his first cycle.

Well shit, tell him to do it and let us know how it goes. hah

 

[tonyroma]

I was about to tell him to do Tren with some Test and winstrol but i read that it was his first cycle.

Well shit, tell him to do it and let us know how it goes. hah

Thats what i'm sayin... He wants to get jacked regardless of any sides. I wanna see the results from what he could get.

 

[tonyroma]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[52_21_30]

test/tren plus a good diet. Looking at his stats though he seems already pretty lean. In fact, he probably should do some more training and dieting naturally before turning to AAS. I know he wont, especially since spring break is right around the corner, but long term planning-wise, he shouldnt be messing with gear just yet. I was 50 lbs heavier and 2 inches shorter when i started, but to each his own.

 

[mikefear]

test 750mg + diet + creatine + cardio + sleep + heavy lifting + diet + diet + diet

 

[AhMadKooL]

Simple for a first cycle: Test

 

[palehorse51]

Go with the basics bro. run a test base. Test e, cyp, or sus. stack it with winny or anavar. If you wanna stack with anaother inj. go with EQ.

 

[redneck77]

sus250+EQ+t3+albuterol. at 10wks run EQ 12-14wks.