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best cutting suplement ?? af stores ?
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SgtSlaughter
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morf33 said:
Animal Cuts by Universal Nutrition. www.animalpak.com
Personally, I've been using there Pak (multi vitamin doesn't even describe it, it's 11 pills in a pak, 44 paks a can... quality) for years. I tried their original Animal Stak (when prohormones were legal) busted through a plateau then, and Just started Animal Stak 2 ... always had great results. When it's time for me to cut up, i'm definetly going to go with their Cuts to cut up. It seems to cover all the bases, check it out
bettyboop
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morf33 said:
Yes those three products are great in helping with your cutting stage but more importantly is your diet and cardio. If you are not cutting things out of your diet and turning up the heat on the cardio no product will work!
Most fat burning products give you that extra kick you need while working out
and side effects are minimal.
macrophage69alpha
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animal cuts does not hold a candle to Thermorexin.
Universal makes some of the lamest and overpriced products. the only decent ingredients in animal cuts are synephrine and caffiene and EGCG, it might give the appearance of results since it has a decent amount of diuretics.
Universal makes some of the lamest and overpriced products. the only decent ingredients in animal cuts are synephrine and caffiene and EGCG, it might give the appearance of results since it has a decent amount of diuretics.
macrophage69alpha
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btw- this is not a slam on you Sgtslaughter, sadly, long, LONG, ago this poster used and "beleived in" the "animal pak". Though back then the options (not to mention quality) were few and far between- you had wieder, universal and "cybergenics". The sad thing is universal has made little or no progress in their formulations in that time.
SgtSlaughter
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macrophage69alpha said:
Pak overpriced? I pay around $21.00 for the 44 pak can, that lasts a good 1.5 months... IMO not overpriced.
I understand where you are coming from with your previous statment. I don't think I stated that it was the best thing out there or that everyone needs to try it... I simply put in my .02 cents for someone looking for a opionion of a cutting supplement... and I reccomended for them to try Cuts. Again... I have not tried Cuts. Nor do I have any vested interest (monetary backing or friends working for the Company in any way) to promote Universal, I like them. But I'm always up to try new, more researched and up to date products.
Now, I ask you this: For what reason do you reccomend Thermorexin?
In what ways is it better??... for the betterment of people looking for quality cutting supps. Not trying to bash either, I just like to get all the facts... not opionions... because I'm sure we all know the saying, "They are like As$Ho1es, and everyone's got one" - yup, even I know mine stinks at times, but i like to state mine as well.
Oh, one more question! Do you use a multivitamin, if so what? And why that brand? If not... why don't you?
No i'm not writting a novel, I just typed fast... and i'm a Newb, so i have questions, lol... damn, I should use the search feature when i find free time After work!
macrophage69alpha
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SgtSlaughter said:
thats 44 doses for 21$- a little under 50cents per dose (once a day stimulant use is much less effective- though a lot of people do it that way- this makes it more likely that your losses are due to diuresis and diet/training- and very little to due with the supps)
the thermorexin 90ct is 29$ (with afdiscount code for board members) thats technically 90 doses (though to be fair the FULL reccomended dose is 2 caps) so at 45 doses that about 64 cents for a FULL dose or 32 cents for a lower dose (a lot of people do use just one- so its a fair eval)
thermorexin is SYMC (with additions) stack synephrine hcl/yohimbine hcl/methylxanthine/caffiene
as matter of reference the M/C part of the stack alone (in clinicals) was as metabolically stimulatory (LIPOLYTIC) as the Ephedrine and Caffeine stack.
other ingredients include: EGCG(from a 45% extract), alcar, altyr, vinpocetine and lipolytic/energy enhancing vitamins (p5p, b-12, etc.)
its a superior formula with the highest quality ingredients.
as a note- having re-read thier label realize why the the was 575mg in the stim complex- they are using an 8% zh zhi (citrus aurantium) extract (low quality and illegal the way they claim the ingredients on the label)- though it does explain the amount which seemed ridiculous.
Universal uses very low grade and cheap ingredients (low %extracts) which is why their cap counts and amounts are very high for all their products.
as far as a multi- prefer twinlab dual tabs- their profile is pretty good- not as good as it could be (have not found one that is) but decent and your can get 200tabs for around 20$ (100 days worth)
macrophage69alpha
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I've used Trex and is one of the best out there....the closest one was VPX Redline (caps), which was pretty good also.
But the problem I find with any of them is that they become less effective over time, like after 30-45 days, they dont work as long...and I seem to get over the appetite supressing effects a lot quicker.
But the problem I find with any of them is that they become less effective over time, like after 30-45 days, they dont work as long...and I seem to get over the appetite supressing effects a lot quicker.
macrophage69alpha
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bbock7272 said:
shop around, most sites have it for 21-26$ (flat rate shipping will be at the higher end, list cost shipping will be at the lower end)
