i really don't liek the idea of going w/ vet products for soemthing you have to inject so often. i was doing 100mg/ml of QV prop daily mixed w/ painless fina, and i wasn't able to walk normally or move my arm some days which seriously cut back on my training, so i mvoed it to EOD injections, still was painful, and i live on the 4th floor of my dorm, it took me at least 10 min to walk up and down the stairs so i cut it out of my current cycle all together. Gonna be trading someone for my leftover Qv for some Virormone, thats what i'd go w/.