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Best bloat-free mass cycle?

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I'm looking for ideas here, plain and simple. I've done plenty of cycles before, most pretty mild. I'm 5'5", 185lbs and about 10% right now. I've been as high as 205 before and I'd like to get back there next cycle. Only thing is, I really don't want all the water retention I got from test, which is what got me over 200lbs the first time. I don't have any sides other than puffy face, but all my female friends make fun of me when I get it and all the guys know I'm on again, lol. I can hide 20lbs of muscle in winter clothes but not the face. So, what do you guys suggest as a good heavy mass-builder with basically 0 water? Test + lots of aromasin? Lots of eq? I'll entertain any option, only thing is I can't run tren enth more than 300mg/week or the pumps get too bad, though for some reason tren acetate I can handle at 100mg/day. Thanks for any ideas!
 
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I'm looking for ideas here, plain and simple. I've done plenty of cycles before, most pretty mild. I'm 5'5", 185lbs and about 10% right now. I've been as high as 205 before and I'd like to get back there next cycle. Only thing is, I really don't want all the water retention I got from test, which is what got me over 200lbs the first time. I don't have any sides other than puffy face, but all my female friends make fun of me when I get it and all the guys know I'm on again, lol. I can hide 20lbs of muscle in winter clothes but not the face. So, what do you guys suggest as a good heavy mass-builder with basically 0 water? Test + lots of aromasin? Lots of eq? I'll entertain any option, only thing is I can't run tren enth more than 300mg/week or the pumps get too bad, though for some reason tren acetate I can handle at 100mg/day. Thanks for any ideas!


Pardon my stupidity but explain how the pumps can get too bad- meaning the swelling feeling u get when training? like yer forearms or biceps???
 
Cutitup, when I used 600mg/week of tren enth, I had to drop it out completely by week 4. My bi's would get so pumped I couldn't curl more than 20lbs and not even 90degree ROM. My low back got so pumped after 2-3 sets I couldn't train back or legs. My tri's got so pumped that chest/shoulders had to be cut in half. I suppose I could have worked through it if I'd waited 20 minutes between each set, but that's just ridiculous. Thanks for the ideas guys, any others? Oh, and termie, I might be doing 50-60mg/day of var, I'm converting 4.5g's of powder to oral liquid, enough for 50mg/day for about 3 months. I might add that to 1g/week of eq and see what happens.
 
you you think the key to lean mass is just doing high doses of EQ and ridiculous mg of anavar a day? it is not the way it works bro. you can get ripped with testo and go upp LBM with dianabol, the key is the DIET. learn how to eat to lean mass not which drug your are gonna use to get there.

chaquito
 
Bro, I've been doing this for years, i KNOW about diet. I didn't say LEAN bodymass cycle, I said BLOAT-FREE. I want something with minimum water retention. Read the post more carefully before you say something that's not nice :)
 
p.b., don't you think aromasin would do a better job than arimidex for reducing water retention? I've yet to use aromasin but adex worked pretty well, though not completely. Think it's possible to retain almost no water with 1g/week of test and enough aromasin?
 
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