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Best Appetite suppressant

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Supps: Ephedrine HCL (still available) and Syneprine in that order. Could also try Green tea, caffeine, and hell.......any other stim for that matter.

Should do the trick brother. Why get the toxic Rx shit when the above supps will do the job.

Good luck.
 
efedrine has a tough rebound affect so i wouldnt recommend it as an appetite suppresant..

it works amazing..
but the following day is a disaster.. at least for me.

i think before thinking about an appetite suppresant, you should think about natural ways.

one way is to eat a shitload of salad..
yes believe it or not that crap will fill you up very effectively.

second, mindpower..
i know its tough bro but try to control yourself.
 
satchboogie said:
efedrine has a tough rebound affect so i wouldnt recommend it as an appetite suppresant..

it works amazing..
but the following day is a disaster.. at least for me.

i think before thinking about an appetite suppresant, you should think about natural ways.

one way is to eat a shitload of salad..
yes believe it or not that crap will fill you up very effectively.

second, mindpower..
i know its tough bro but try to control yourself.
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Good advice Satchie... also don't forget WATER! Never confuse, hunger with thirst!
 
anavar suppresses the appetite big time.
 
While I dO NOT endorse it - DNP is unbeatable for appetite loss
 
The Shadow said:
While I dO NOT endorse it - DNP is unbeatable for appetite loss
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i'm gonna have to strongly disagree..
in fact, nothing gives be carb binges like DNP.

its great for fat loss.. that nobody can argue.
but i wouldnt recommend it as an appetite suppressant.
 
satchboogie said:
i'm gonna have to strongly disagree..
in fact, nothing gives be carb binges like DNP.

its great for fat loss.. that nobody can argue.
but i wouldnt recommend it as an appetite suppressant.
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It must be an individual thing then...while it does make you want to increase carbs,...I find the jump in "heat" makes it undesirable....

I know that most people who track cals when on it...eat considerably less than when dieting without it
 
The Shadow said:
It must be an individual thing then...while it does make you want to increase carbs,...I find the jump in "heat" makes it undesirable....

I know that most people who track cals when on it...eat considerably less than when dieting without it
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consider yourself lucky bro...
most dnp users find that the carb cravings are impossible to deal with..
 
what about the fact that most users still eat fewer overall cals?
 
The Shadow said:
what about the fact that most users still eat fewer overall cals?
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thats more will power realizing that they have to maximize those few weeks of dnp to lose as much fat as possible.. i dont think there's a physical reaction that reduces appetite.
 
CYPHON said:
Adderall works great for me.
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Definatly.. kills mine.. but after a while I become tolerant to it a good bit.. which is normal.. and my appetite comes back.. but for quite a while it will curb my cravings a lot so i stop and think before i go back from seconds.. or thirds.. ha ha.. ritalin works as well.. but not quite as effective as adderall.. and i become tolerant to ritalin pretty quick.. but i've been on it for a few years now..

would be curious to find some actual studies showing increase in basal metabolic rate while on such things as adderall and ritalin.. they are both pretty heavy stimulants.. so they must increase it somewhat.. but have been unable to find any real info.. anyone found anything i haven't yet?
 
Ephepdrine HCL hands down. I've used it all form DNP to xenadrine and Pure ehepdrin hcl is the best. I take 50mg 3x a day but you'll want to work your way up to that. People's tolerance to ephedrine varies greatly.
 
I heard Ephedrine is bad for heart attacks and such, but im gona go shopping tomorow. i definately need a supressant, ive been eating baby carrots to keep me occupied but i would need like 2-3 lb of carrots to keep me good.
 
tokebloke said:
Ephepdrine HCL hands down. I've used it all form DNP to xenadrine and Pure ehepdrin hcl is the best. I take 50mg 3x a day but you'll want to work your way up to that. People's tolerance to ephedrine varies greatly.
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I hope this isn't considering asking for a source but where can you buy ephedrine now?
 
Silverbackgorilla said:
I havent used it but I hear Meridia works well--- Anyone have experiences with it?
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Meridia was supposed to be the non-stimulant phen=fen reinvented. I think i sux as an appetite suppresant. however, phentermine + wellbutrin is a great way to get over carb cravings...i have a bad carb problem when I am stressed.

The phentermine is an amphetamine derivative and has been used since the 50's. The wellbutrin has been noted to cause weight loss as a side efect. I found this mainly to be carb cravings.
 
Dostinex works well and you burn additional calories with the extra sex drive it gives you

Anavar works even better.
 
Thanks Tokebloke, I found that doing a search last night also. I thought that it was illegal to buy ephedrine now. Every site that sells it says you can only buy 7 bottles/month because of federal restrictions.
 
dr0832 said:
I saw you take adderall for appetite supressant. I am looking for som because I have exams soon. Would you happen to know any one offering it? Email if you do. [email protected]
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um i hope you relize that your asking for an amphetamine (meth like scheduled substance) on an open board. thats not a wise idea. you should delete your post. or one of the mods should do that.
 
Anyone check out the 60 minutes special on Hoodia? From http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/18/60minutes/main656458.shtml

CBSnews.com said:
Each year, people spend more than $40 billion on products designed to help them slim down. None of them seem to be working very well.

Now along comes hoodia. Never heard of it? Soon it'll be tripping off your tongue, because hoodia is a natural substance that literally takes your appetite away.

It's very different from diet stimulants like Ephedra and Phenfen that are now banned because of dangerous side effects. Hoodia doesn't stimulate at all. Scientists say it fools the brain by making you think you’re full, even if you've eaten just a morsel. Correspondent Lesley Stahl reports.

Hoodia is a bitter-tasting cactus-like plant. 60 Minutes was told that if it wanted to try hoodia, it would have to go to Africa. Why? Because the only place in the world where hoodia grows wild is in the Kalahari Desert of South Africa.

Nigel Crawhall, a linguist and interpreter, hired an experienced tracker named Toppies Kruiper, a local aboriginal Bushman, to help find it. The Bushmen were featured in the movie “The Gods Must Be Crazy.”

Kruiper led 60 Minutes crews out into the desert. Stahl asked him if he ate hoodia. "I really like to eat them when the new rains have come," says Kruiper, speaking through the interpreter. "Then they're really quite delicious."

When we located the plant, Kruiper cut off a stalk that looked like a small spiky pickle, and removed the sharp spines. In the interest of science, Stahl ate it. She described the taste as "a little cucumbery in texture, but not bad."

So how did it work? Stahl says she had no after effects – no funny taste in her mouth, no queasy stomach, and no racing heart. She also wasn't hungry all day, even when she would normally have a pang around mealtime. And, she also had no desire to eat or drink the entire day. "I'd have to say it did work," says Stahl.

Although the West is just discovering hoodia, the Bushmen of the Kalahari have been eating it for a very long time. After all, they have been living off the land in southern Africa for more than 100,000 years.

Some of the Bushmen, like Anna Swartz, still live in old traditional huts, and cook so-called Bush food gathered from the desert the old-fashioned way.

The first scientific investigation of the plant was conducted at South Africa’s national laboratory. Because Bushmen were known to eat hoodia, it was included in a study of indigenous foods.

"What they found was when they fed it to animals, the animals ate it and lost weight," says Dr. Richard Dixey, who heads an English pharmaceutical company called Phytopharm that is trying to develop weight-loss products based on hoodia.

Was hoodia's potential application as an appetite suppressant immediately obvious?

"No, it took them a long time. In fact, the original research was done in the mid 1960s," says Dixey.

It took the South African national laboratory 30 years to isolate and identify the specific appetite-suppressing ingredient in hoodia. When they found it, they applied for a patent and licensed it to Phytopharm.

Phytopharm has spent more than $20 million so far on research, including clinical trials with obese volunteers that have yielded promising results. Subjects given hoodia ended up eating about 1,000 calories a day less than those in the control group. To put that in perspective, the average American man consumes about 2,600 calories a day; a woman about 1,900.

"If you take this compound every day, your wish to eat goes down. And we've seen that very, very dramatically," says Dixey.

But why do you need a patent for a plant? "The patent is on the application of the plant as a weight-loss material. And, of course, the active compounds within the plant. It’s not on the plant itself," says Dixey.

So no one else can use hoodia for weight loss? "As a weight-management product without infringing the patent, that’s correct," says Dixey.

But what does that say about all these weight-loss products that claim to have hoodia in it? Trimspa says its X32 pills contain 75 mg of hoodia. The company is pushing its product with an ad campaign featuring Anna Nicole Smith, even though the FDA has notified Trimspa that it hasn’t demonstrated that the product is safe.

Some companies have even used the results of Phytopharm’s clinical tests to market their products.

"This is just straightforward theft. That’s what it is. People are stealing data, which they haven’t done, they’ve got no proper understanding of, and sticking on the bottle," says Dixey. "When we have assayed these materials, they contain between 0.1 and 0.01 percent of the active ingredient claimed. But they use the term hoodia on the bottle, of course, so they -- does nothing at all."

But Dixey isn’t the only one who’s felt ripped off. The Bushmen first heard the news about the patent when Phytopharm put out a press release. Roger Chennells, a lawyer in South Africa who represents the Bushmen, who are also called “the San,” was appalled.

"The San did not even know about it," says Chennells. "They had given the information that led directly toward the patent."

The taking of traditional knowledge without compensation is called “bio-piracy.”

"You have said, and I'm going to quote you, 'that the San felt as if someone had stolen the family silver,'" says Stahl to Chennells. "So what did you do?"

"I wouldn't want to go into some of the details as to what kind of letters were written or what kind of threats were made," says Chennells. "We engaged them. They had done something wrong, and we wanted them to acknowledge it."

Chennells was determined to help the Bushmen who, he says, have been exploited for centuries. First they were pushed aside by black tribes. Then, when white colonists arrived, they were nearly annihilated.

"About the turn of the century, there were still hunting parties in Namibia and in South Africa that allowed farmers to go and kill Bushmen," says Chennells. "It's well documented."

The Bushmen are still stigmatized in South Africa, and plagued with high unemployment, little education, and lots of alcoholism. And now, it seemed they were about to be cut out of a potential windfall from hoodia. So Chennells threatened to sue the national lab on their behalf.

"We knew that if it was successful, many, many millions of dollars would be coming towards the San," says Chennells. "Many, many millions. They've talked about the market being hundreds and hundreds of millions in America."
In the end, a settlement was reached. The Bushmen will get a percentage of the profits -- if there are profits. But that’s a big if.

The future of hoodia is not yet a sure thing. The project hit a major snag last year. Pharmaceutical giant Pfizer, which had teamed up with Phytopharm, and funded much of the research, dropped out when making a pill out of the active ingredient seemed beyond reach.

Dixey says it can be made synthetically: "We've made milligrams of it. But it's very expensive. It's not possible to make it synthetically in what’s called a scaleable process. So we couldn’t make a metric ton of it or something that is the sort of quantity you’d need to actually start doing something about obesity in thousands of people."

Phytopharm decided to market hoodia in its natural form, in diet shakes and bars. That meant it needed the hoodia plant itself.

But given the obesity epidemic in the United States, it became obvious that what was needed was a lot of hoodia - much more than was growing in the wild in the Kalahari. And so they came here.

60 Minutes visited one of Phytopharm’s hoodia plantations in South Africa. They’ll need a lot of these plantations to meet the expected demand.

Agronomist Simon MacWilliam has a tall order: grow a billion portions a year of hoodia, within just a couple of years. He admitted that starting up the plantation has been quite a challenge.

"The problem is we’re dealing with a novel crop. It’s a plant we’ve taken out of the wild and we’re starting to grow it,' says MacWilliam. "So we have no experience. So it’s different— diseases and pests which we have to deal with."

How confident are they that they will be able to grow enough? "We're very confident of that," he says. "We've got an expansion program which is going to be 100s of acres. And we'll be able – ready to meet the demand.

This could be huge, given the obesity epidemic. Phytopharm says it’s about to announce marketing plans that will have meal-replacement hoodia products on supermarket shelves by 2008.

MacWilliam says these products are a slightly different species from the hoodia Stahl tasted in the Kalahari Desert. "It's actually a lot more bitter than the plant that you tasted," says MacWilliam.

The advantage is this species of hoodia will grow a lot faster. But more bitter? How bad could it be? Stahl decided to find out. "Not good," she says.

Phytopharm says that when its product gets to market, it will be certified safe and effective. They also promise that it’ll taste good.
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I'm probably going to get ripped off, but I ordered up some Hoodia pills from a company that claims to be in S.Africa. Now that I've calmed down, it's pretty apparent that these pills probably 1.) won't contain much hoodia, 2.) won't be very effective even if they do have hoodia in them. When I get the pills, I'll report on my results anyway.
 
now that sounds promising man.. too bad it's still in the works.. all the really GOOD things are always in the works.. LoL.. i have no problem dieting and losing weight.. but god if i don't have an appetite like a horse.. i can eat and eat and still eat more.. ha ha.. ephedrine hcl works sometimes.. t-rex works to an extent.. ritalin works a little bit.. so does loading up on salad and things such as that.. but i still get hungry.. ha ha.. let us all know when you get it how well it works for you at all.. if it curbs the appetite at all then it is a good supp to add to the list we have going
 
I'm gonna have to second Satch on the carb cravings. Personally, it feels like -anything- I eat ceases to exist in a half hour, but maybe that's just me. It ain't suppressing jack, though.

...not that it really matters when you've got evil yellow crystal magic on your side. ;)
 
I find taking ephedrine 2x daily while cutting to work wonders. I NEVER want to eat anything while I'm on it.
 
im not sure where you can get it here, but there was a big article in the Times on a plant called Hoodia gordonii... supposed to kill appetite. It grows in So. Africa.
 
I always keep veggies around when dieting. Broccoli with a pinch of salt always worked for me. The salt made me thirsty, so I drank a shit load of water...then, BAM I was full. Sure the extra salt will make you retain water, there a lots of ways to get rid of excess H20 though.
 
kbrkbr said:
I can't tolerate stimulants, so I vote for pondimin.
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It's not that I can't tolerate stimulants. They just don't work. I get jittery for a hour or so, then I'm twice as hungry as I was before taking them. It must be the crash. Depression makes me eat.

Is anyone making pondimin anymore? I thought all the lawsuits sht everyone down? It it possible to get the powder?
 
SelfMedicated said:
It's not that I can't tolerate stimulants. They just don't work. I get jittery for a hour or so, then I'm twice as hungry as I was before taking them. It must be the crash. Depression makes me eat.

Is anyone making pondimin anymore? I thought all the lawsuits sht everyone down? It it possible to get the powder?
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Definatly man.. stimulants work for like an hour or so.. then it's over.. in a world of so much caffiene and other stimulants.. other things just aren't as effective anymore.. plus having ADD most of my life and being on stimulants for it.. the rest just dont' really work.. ha ha.. oh well.. nothing seems to curb my hunger pangs.. not even eating veggies.. or eating in general.. the more i eat.. the more hungry i get.. it just plain sucks.. but oh well.. come bulking season.. i'm in heaven.. :)
 
wootoom said:
anavar suppresses the appetite big time.
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I read this before and have some questions for anyone who's experienced this effect:

Do you take your var all at once or spread the pills out throughout the day?

How long after dosing does appetite supression kick in?

How long does it last?
 
SelfMedicated said:
It's not that I can't tolerate stimulants. They just don't work. I get jittery for a hour or so, then I'm twice as hungry as I was before taking them. It must be the crash. Depression makes me eat.

Is anyone making pondimin anymore? I thought all the lawsuits sht everyone down? It it possible to get the powder?
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IP still has it. I know two people that are using the IP stuff and have lost a lot of weight on it....not lifting, just walking and diet, but they were pretty overweight to begin with. Start with one tablet and work up to 3 a day. Nice side effect: If your stressed, you prob wont be after a week of taking it.
 
:frog:
TheRide said:
Good advice Satchie... also don't forget WATER! Never confuse, hunger with thirst!
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I don't know if this is just me, but I found that when I am drinking a lot of water that I actually become very hungry. Like to the point of if I don't eat I am in pain. I am a HUGE ephedra fan, back in the days of Dymetradine Xtreme I was all over that stuff. Nowadays I think synephrine is good, Yohimbe too, but the come down off of Yohimbe is pretty harsh if your not used to it. I've come down easier off of blow back in the day..... :frog:

-BS
 
Blackwatersurprise said:
IP still has it. I know two people that are using the IP stuff and have lost a lot of weight on it....not lifting, just walking and diet, but they were pretty overweight to begin with. Start with one tablet and work up to 3 a day. Nice side effect: If your stressed, you prob wont be after a week of taking it.
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When I was using IP's pondimin, half a tab did the trick.

I'm pretty sure Georgie has used it too.
 
i can take 150mg of ephedrine and 2000mg of caffeine during the course of the day and still eat 5000kcal of crap. what sux is i can't choke down 2000kcal of clean food on a good day. however, got my thermorexin today and can't wait to take it in the morning.
 
cbeaks said:
What is the best prescription appetite suppressant?
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If I may be of some help, I am a med student which means I get drug rep samples fairly often and there is a new medicine out there called Provigil (modafinil) which comes in 200mg tablets. It is a medication originally designed for people with narcolepsy (sleep sickness). It is the ultimate anti-sleep medicine for people with shift work disorders (going from dayshift to nightshift and back). You take one 200 mg tablet in the morning and you will be wide awake for most of the day. I causes very little in the way of tachycardia or jitters and keeps your mind focused which is a nice benefit. Awake all day, sharp as a knife, and motivated, dedicated, and not caffeinated, what more could you ask for. Oh yeah, they just found out that the newest side affect in its profile is "APPETITE SUPRESSION!" I have found a bunch of sites that sell it so use any search engine and you can get more info. Hope this helps.
 
pondimin hands down, ive used every supp under the sun...when i ran pondimin i did a ckd for 4 months w/out not one cheat day. the shit gave me a mdma like high that i liked as well so the over all dieting experience was great! that four months changed my bodycompisition as well as my life.
 
hellsdoc6 said:
If I may be of some help, I am a med student which means I get drug rep samples fairly often and there is a new medicine out there called Provigil (modafinil) which comes in 200mg tablets. It is a medication originally designed for people with narcolepsy (sleep sickness). It is the ultimate anti-sleep medicine for people with shift work disorders (going from dayshift to nightshift and back). You take one 200 mg tablet in the morning and you will be wide awake for most of the day. I causes very little in the way of tachycardia or jitters and keeps your mind focused which is a nice benefit. Awake all day, sharp as a knife, and motivated, dedicated, and not caffeinated, what more could you ask for. Oh yeah, they just found out that the newest side affect in its profile is "APPETITE SUPRESSION!" I have found a bunch of sites that sell it so use any search engine and you can get more info. Hope this helps.
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I read about the appetite suppression effects of Modafinil also. I wonder what the effective dose would be for appetite suppression. I've been using 100mg/day for a few days just to keep me alert for work and it has been working great. I will be bulking soon and would still like to use modafinil from time to time but don't want it to effect my appetite. Once I start dieting I plan on using it more for its appetite suppression effects.
 
I think that you are fortunate to be able to obtain Provigil,HD6,as samples,that is.My doc tried me on a few samples,they honestly did very little for me ,anyway.They are also a Class 4 drug,are they not?The cost of them suckers:unbelievably expensive,for what little they do.The other stuff mentioned,Adderrall and Ritalin,are Class 2 drugs that ADD folks usually get,they certainly can suppress appetite,for some,they actually make me hungrier.I think that could be due to the metabolic effect they can have,actting as digestive stimulators,so you lose the food in your stomach faster.I take Dexedrine as my ADD med of choice.It is the cleanest and causes less cardio interference,in me,anyway,but I still get hungry.I tend to go along with the guys on trying natural methods,like eating more of a Paliolithic Diet but going easy on the High-Glycemic Index stuff(carrotts,apples,potatos,etc.)We still can get Ephedrine in NC.Jack Stack
 
cbeaks said:
I read about the appetite suppression effects of Modafinil also. I wonder what the effective dose would be for appetite suppression. I've been using 100mg/day for a few days just to keep me alert for work and it has been working great. I will be bulking soon and would still like to use modafinil from time to time but don't want it to effect my appetite. Once I start dieting I plan on using it more for its appetite suppression effects.
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A regular 200mg a day dose taken in the midmorning as the post prandial glucose levels from breakfast start their little spiral down seems to do the trick. If you take it first thing in the morning it suppresses the appetite until mid/late afternoon which leaves dinner as a possible binge meal rebound. If you eat a sensible breakfast and then wait until midmorning to take the 200 mg tablet it will get you through lunch and dinner until bedtime which is the idea. No one usually goes crazy on breakfast but on lunch and dinner instead. If you have to have one meal based on your own discipline and two suppressed chemically I would choose breakfast as my meal not affected by the chemical. My wife has started it now to be more awake at her job and too lose weight. I let you know how it progresses down the road.
 
hellsdoc6 said:
A regular 200mg a day dose taken in the midmorning as the post prandial glucose levels from breakfast start their little spiral down seems to do the trick. If you take it first thing in the morning it suppresses the appetite until mid/late afternoon which leaves dinner as a possible binge meal rebound. If you eat a sensible breakfast and then wait until midmorning to take the 200 mg tablet it will get you through lunch and dinner until bedtime which is the idea. No one usually goes crazy on breakfast but on lunch and dinner instead. If you have to have one meal based on your own discipline and two suppressed chemically I would choose breakfast as my meal not affected by the chemical. My wife has started it now to be more awake at her job and too lose weight. I let you know how it progresses down the road.
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thanks for that info.
 
Phentermine is amazing for Appetite control.thx

QUOTE=cbeaks]What is the best prescription appetite suppressant?[/QUOTE]
 
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