Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below New to the forums, and glad to be here. Been researching for about 2 months now and getting good advice from workout partners, just wanted second opinion. I'm 5'9", 190lbs, 19bf, 23yo, been training since highschool football, but real serious for about a year. According to my stats, research and friends suggest a cycle of Test Enth at 250mg a week for 10 weeks with pct starting about a week off of cycle, of clomid 100mg a day for three days and 50mg for 2 or 3 weeks after. I'm looking to bulk but don't want to explode in a week. Just looking to add about 20lbs. Also I would really like to keep what I gain without having to do any more cycles. I know what it takes,(hard work and diet) but what am I really looking at losing. Thanks for any help.
Beginners cycle of Test Enth?
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goku_kakarot77
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duke0509 said:
first of all welcome to ef aas board, the test e is good for first, but 250mgs is jjust replacing your natty test levels, 500mgs split in to two shots would be good first cycle then two weeks after last shot start pct, just lift heavy and rest and try to consume 2g of protein per lbs of body weight, and your good to gror have an anti estrogen on hand in casse of gyno..
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safety4lyfe
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i was thinking the same...upping it to 400 or 500mg a week. maybe even extend it for 12wks to maximize your gains from your first cycle. have novla on hands for gyno flare up (just in case) or use an anti-e throughout. add in some derma sustain in your PCT and your good to get swole.
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PhillyPA#1
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atleast 10-12 weeks. Im currently into week 6 of a my first cycle. Im running Test E at 500 a week (250 every M and Th). I went from 208 to 230, so far..
I have heard of people who have ran 250mg a week of Test E and grew like a weed. Personally, I wouldn't go less than 400mg a week. Good luck!
I have heard of people who have ran 250mg a week of Test E and grew like a weed. Personally, I wouldn't go less than 400mg a week. Good luck!
hd heritage
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duke0509 said:
check out primordialperformance.com,derma sustain (sustain alpha) will keep you from crashing when you come off your cycle,stuff is awesome!! My first cycle was test e at 500mg wk for 12 wks (at 40 yrs old lol). Incredible results!! Good luck, continue to reaearch & be safe. Also, don't believe any discussion of prices is allowed. And welcome!
Many will tell you to go over 250/week, but for your first cycle try the 250/week first to see how your body reacts to it. I have almost the exact same stats you have, went with 250/week for 12 weeks for my first cycle and got about 15 solid pounds out of it. It was an excellent first cycle!! The only thing I would do different is possibly throww a small dose of Dbol in the first few weeks to jump start the gains. You have no idea how your body's going to react to your first cycle, so it's very smart to start off low and you can increase later.
littleb
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duke0509 said:
I would go like this,, shot every 4-5 days of test e which will bump you over the 250,,,and for 12 weeks,, also make sure you have some adex on hand for during cycle, and as was posted b4 have nolva for pct as well as in case gyno starts to show up...
also i dont like your pct, I am a little old school as far as pct, nolva clomid and hcg you will be set, 50 mg clomid, 20 nolva with hcg starting a few days after last shot of test...
even without hcg, nolva clomid pct is the time tested pct, and I personally am not a fan of front loading clomid...
as far as what you will lose, that depends even with proper pct i would not expect 20 lbs in your case scale weight, it is not a bad thing, but with 19%BF you are going to cut some of that add muscle and look better... dont ever trust the scale trust the mirror or pictures...... If i were you i would be happy with 10-15 lbs after pct if my BF dropped...
TBD 21
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Heres a link to check out more on sustain alpha and also some other products you might want to look into for PCT and also for when your off to keep your gains and the same feeling of being on. http://www.primordialperformance.com/details.cfm
donkeypuncher900
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txeng said:
txeng: I agree with the vast majority of what you said. He might get great results with 250 a week, and it is good to ease your way into things. But because of both of those things, and that he doesn't know how he will react, that is why I would say DONT throw the dbol in there. You want to know how each compound affects you, and that means introducing them one at a time.
Also might I suggest instead of 250 EW TestE, you go for 125 Test E on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday? This adds up to 375 a week, and is the happy medium between 250 and 500... also the more frequent shots will keep blood levels much more consistent. My experience has been that the more consistent you keep blood levels the better gains and fewer sides you will experience. While 3 shots a weeks is much different than 1 shot a week, shots really aren't bad and some even come to enjoy them a bit.
all the whey
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No need to do 500mg first cycle.
this is the cycle i'm gonna be doing, can you post some before and after pix, or at least your stats like height/weight/bf tell me where you made your biggest gains at? thanx
mrribbit
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Yeah bro, check out primordial performance's website. You want the sustain over the clomid for pct. You want to stay away from things that are toxic (ie - CLOMID). Also you may want to use hcg on cycle. It's easy, pm if you need help bro. Good luck and welcome to EF.
cuts82
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250mg is atleast 4 times more test then most men produces per week so id hardly say that its just gonna "replace natty test", im running 300mg a week and im gaining like crazy!
