Beginner deca/dianabol cycle

[jamyers]

Would a decabol and dianabol cycle be good for a beginner? And what type of anti-estro should be use? How should this cycle be taken? What should one expect from this cycle assuming diet is 4000cal perday high protein. Has anyone ever suffer from this cycle as a beginner?

 

[surferstar]

Would a decabol and dianabol cycle be good for a beginner? And what type of anti-estro should be use? How should this cycle be taken? What should one expect from this cycle assuming diet is 4000cal perday high protein. Has anyone ever suffer from this cycle as a beginner?

You need an extreme amount of research. Go read all the treads and stickies, your cal is even way to low, Prob don't know how much protein to take, nevermind recommending a cycle, LISTEN do a lot of research. Everyone here is going to tell you the same thing. BTW whats your stats? One thing you'll expect if you dont' research is GYNO, pimples, dead liver and kidney's and one limp dick with no balls and 3 strikes, your out. Just trying to help.

 

[Slyder190]

You can't make the judgement that 4000cal is too low for him. You're right about research though. Stats?

 

[Advisor_x]

Good advise bro, stickies have some fundamental info, also good stack if you have availability use some test to the combo.....great begginer cycle..........

 

[jamyers]

I've been doing a lot of reading lately and just trying to figure out what would be the best cycle for a beginner. I know I have a lot to learn thats why I'm here. I am wanting to hear from you guys, the ones that know. I've been lifting for a few months now and kinda wanting to speed up the progress just like everyone here. Would deca be a "safer" beginner steroid or do I have room to try others or even stack? I am just wanting to hear from everyone since I have already read. I see all kinds of beginner cycles but I want more info. I'm 5'11" 190lbs med frame worked out for 6 months.

 

[surferstar]

I've been doing a lot of reading lately and just trying to figure out what would be the best cycle for a beginner. I know I have a lot to learn thats why I'm here. I am wanting to hear from you guys, the ones that know. I've been lifting for a few months now and kinda wanting to speed up the progress just like everyone here. Would deca be a "safer" beginner steroid or do I have room to try others or even stack? I am just wanting to hear from everyone since I have already read. I see all kinds of beginner cycles but I want more info. I'm 5'11" 190lbs med frame worked out for 6 months.

@1.5-2g protein / LB @5,000 cal
Basic newbie cycle
1-10wk Test 500mg/wk 2x wk 250mg (mon/thurs)
13-15wk pct nolva 20mg ed
clomid 300mg day 1 next 10 100mg last 10 50mg
some might say HCG too. Dont think you need it for this but if the mods tell you yes, then listen to them.

have nolva on hand for gyno
have aromasin if you bloat

But like I said before, make sure you do tons of research 1st b4 doing them.

 

[surferstar]

@1.5-2g protein / LB @5,000 cal
Basic newbie cycle
1-10wk Test 500mg/wk 2x wk 250mg (mon/thurs)
13-15wk pct nolva 20mg ed
clomid 300mg day 1 next 10 100mg last 10 50mg
some might say HCG too. Dont think you need it for this but if the mods tell you yes, then listen to them.

have nolva on hand for gyno
have aromasin if you bloat

But like I said before, make sure you do tons of research 1st b4 doing them.

You could frontload
wk1-4 dbol like 35mg ed but see how you react first

 

[fleabag711]

make sure you do test with this if you can. Your body really needs it for many reasons. I just had to quit my first cycle which was DECA/dianabol because I didnt have PCT on hand (nolvadex clomid) etc. I quit because of sensitive nips and low funding for diet. However, my strength is still getting greater and I quit deca/dbol 2 weeks ago.

 

[2MoreNoMatterWhat]

Would a decabol and dianabol cycle be good for a beginner? And what type of anti-estro should be use? How should this cycle be taken? What should one expect from this cycle assuming diet is 4000cal perday high protein. Has anyone ever suffer from this cycle as a beginner?

Bro, I prob was in the same place as you 2 months ago. I researched the hell out of it – go online and read about everything, and then ask any questions you can’t find answers for. I came to the conclusion that for a FIRST time, an eight-ten week cycle of a Test Prop with 1.5 – 2 CC’s EOD was best. Nolva durring and clomid after too...just to be safe. This was just want I came to. I’m just letting u know because I too was all about doin a dec dbol stack the first time around and after all I learned I'm not sure if I'll ever be doin that. But I am new and over conscious...

 

[jokerswild]

Would a decabol and dianabol cycle be good for a beginner? And what type of anti-estro should be use? How should this cycle be taken? What should one expect from this cycle assuming diet is 4000cal perday high protein. Has anyone ever suffer from this cycle as a beginner?

Do Test/Dbol instead, Deca may not kill your sex drive but it will lower it, plus I didn't like the sides I got with Deca....

 

[jamyers]

Wow, sounds like deca is not first choice for you guys. I've read that deca has lower androgenic side effects than the test. If thats the case wouldnt deca be better? Thats just from what I have read. And since we have to take anti-estro for any steroid wouldnt taking a steroid with lower androgenic side effects be safer? such as deca?

 

[--CellTech--]

Deca is realy widely used all over the world, probly one of the most popular roids around. Deca for a started i would go with 200mg per week im not sure what to combine with it tho i am also new to this stuff. I was looking into starting a cycle of roids but i am only 17 so i dont think i am going to until im done growing. I did a cycle of M1T which is what i think you should take if you have only been training for a few months you dont just wana hop into the shots bud. M1T will give u great gains if your just starting out and do it pretty quick. Deca will lower your sex drive a lot and maybe convert to Gyno, however it has many less sides then the harder roids. But make sure you look into it, have all the right combinations b4 starting it.

 

[210toosmall]

i wouldnt say that deca has less or more sides than any other aas as it depends on the person and some are more sensitive to nandrolones then test, so its all about finding out what works for you.
that being said it does make alot of sense to try a just test cycle first to see how its tolerated, then if you feel like it save the experimenting with different compounds for future cycles.

 

[jamyers]

so really it all depends on the individual. Deca could be the best thing for one person and test for another. hmmmm, interesting. The thing is I feel very strongly about the deca/dbol cycle just from my research and I guess I wanted to hear more about side effects of other types of aas as a cycle too. I am still reading and I guess to really know whats best is to try a cycle. Also I am interested in the nolvadex if its good to take as a precaution. would nolvadex cause any hinder in muscle gain? I know clomid would help gains stay and harden the gains. What do people take to help liver health while on debol?

 

[mad143]

look , for protin u must take about 2.5 g in each meal and for 1500 cal for u is better
and used 250 ml Deca first and sec week and 500 ml for 3 and 4 week 250 ml 5 and 6 week is better for first cycle and 1 tablet dynabol 1week , 2 tablets 2 week , 2,50 tablet 3 week return to 1 tablet 4 week
don`t make dynabol for more than one month coze u take hormon from ur mouth
don`t forget the legalone for kidny and nolvadix .

 

[CaddysNJuice]

hese my beginner cycle that has worked WONDERS
Dbol 30 mg ed first 3 weeks
Dbol 25 mg ed wks 3-6
Deca 300 mg every 5 days
Sust 250 mg every 5 days
Ive done 4 injections thus far
Started at 140 and am now at 157
17 lbs in 3-4 weeks aint bad...
But, be sure to have enough calcium in your body with the super high protein intake, otherwise your only weakening your body, believe it or not

 

[2MoreNoMatterWhat]

@1.5-2g protein / LB @5,000 cal
Basic newbie cycle
1-10wk Test 500mg/wk 2x wk 250mg (mon/thurs)
13-15wk pct nolva 20mg ed
clomid 300mg day 1 next 10 100mg last 10 50mg
some might say HCG too. Dont think you need it for this but if the mods tell you yes, then listen to them.

have nolva on hand for gyno
have aromasin if you bloat

But like I said before, make sure you do tons of research 1st b4 doing them.

i can to the conclusion to start taking my nolva @ 1 CC eod after the first week till the end of the cycle and then 2 weeks after the cycle start the clomid at 2 CC's ED.
...how do u feel about that?

 

[JKurz1]

personally I cant get over the whole face looking like a baboon and water water bloat everywhere with dball......just so uncomfortable looking and got to be hard to look in the mirror....

 

[surferstar]

i can to the conclusion to start taking my nolva @ 1 CC eod after the first week till the end of the cycle and then 2 weeks after the cycle start the clomid at 2 CC's ED.
...how do u feel about that?

No reason to take Nolva during cycle unless your either really prone to Gyno just have it on hand incase your nips start hurting then use it

 

[surferstar]

But if your going to use Dbol to front load then make sure you get milk thistle and cranberry extract to help out your kidney's

 

[BadboyAl]

After reading everyones posts. The kid is probably more confused than ever!!

 

[solidspine]

Deca and test would be a better start, no need for d-bol on a first cycle.

 

[djsf]

Deca and test is a good general-purpose first cycle. Something like 500mg/wk test + 400mg/wk deca + arimidex daily at .5-1mg. This cycle can produce good growth, reasonably lean gains and maintainable results with relatively easy PCT.