Been Lurking and Reading...

[makin]

Hey guys, I joined this site a couple weeks back and have been absorbing as much info as possible! Finally decided to introduce myself and make my first post. Im 23 and have been active all my life in competitive sports mostly soccer and basketball. Unfortunatly I was never really exposed to strict weight training.

When I turned 21 I started to get lazy and would go out way too much enjoying the bar scene...typical stuff. After a few months of that I noticed that I had put on some weight and wasnt nearly as toned as I used to be. Obviously I got frustrated and I started to work out. The first few months were hit and miss and I was just learning about form and different exercises. By the time I hit 22 I was getting pretty good with my diet and making respectable gains in strength and size. Im now almost 24 (in july) and serious about my training and diet, and have been so for a good year straight. Minus a few months due to a motorcycle accident...

I am currently 6ft. 180lbs. 15%ish bf
Some measurements: Arms, 14 1/2in. Chest, 41 in. Shoulders, 46in. Waist, 33in. Thighs, 24in.

I eat 5-6 times a day, about every 3 hours or so. I try and consume about 2500-3000 calories/day. I also do my best to break everything down by the 50/30/20 principle (carbs/protein/fats) and I consume 180-190 grams of protein a day from natural sources and a shake or two. I also take creatine, glutamine and a multivitamin.

I train 5 days a week: Mon. legs+abs Tues. Chest+abs Wed. Back
Thur. Abs Fri. Shoulders, Bi's, Tri's. Sat and Sun off

I am considering doing my first cycle and due to whats available and my goal (to gain lean muscle, not too concerned on getting huge, yet.)
This is what I am thinking of.

Test Propionate/ Winstrol(liquid):
6 wks.
T:400mgs/wk W:100mgs eod
PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - : Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - , and after some reading here, Sustain Alpha, Toco-8, and EndoAmp

Im definetly open to critisism and questions. Im know Im still learning, but I also know that the things in life worth having are worth working for.

 

[GUARDIAN]

up that protein to 300grams a day.

i think u should get yourself up to 200lbs naturally before hitting the sauce. though when u r ready a test only is the way to go.

 

[JLowe02]

your cycle doesnt sound bad, but i wouldnt run winny first. id try some test E at 250mg/week for ten weeks. some may say thats a low dose, but imo, it is just fine for moderate gains for a first timer. plus you dont know yet how aas will affect you. and like guard said, eat more protein.

 

[n1tro]

The nice thing about using prop for the first time is if you for any number of reasons dont agree with the test you can stop and it will be out of your system faster than that of a long acting ester.

 

[JLowe02]

The nice thing about using prop for the first time is if you for any number of reasons dont agree with the test you can stop and it will be out of your system faster than that of a long acting ester.

this is true advice also

 

[makin]

Thanks for the advice Guardian. I'll start upping the protein intake immediately. The only reason I was thinking of running some Winny is because I believe that I am prone to gyno, and I understand that Winny is supposed to combat this as well as boost strength. If that assumption is flawed, please correct me.

 

[n1tro]

Thanks for the advice Guardian. I'll start upping the protein intake immediately. The only reason I was thinking of running some Winny is because I believe that I am prone to gyno, and I understand that Winny is supposed to combat this as well as boost strength. If that assumption is flawed, please correct me.

Winny is just good. Go easy on your liver while you run it though. Supps, water...no Booze!

 

[makin]

Yeah, I will definetly take it easy on my liver if I do anything. Ive picked up milk thistle and I stopped drinking for a few months to dial in my diet.

n1tro, I was thinking if I did this cycle that I would cut out the supps so I could get an accurate feel of how things affected my body/development. But if I should keep taking them throughout, then I will.

 

[n1tro]

Yeah, I will definetly take it easy on my liver if I do anything. Ive picked up milk thistle and I stopped drinking for a few months to dial in my diet.

n1tro, I was thinking if I did this cycle that I would cut out the supps so I could get an accurate feel of how things affected my body/development. But if I should keep taking them throughout, then I will.

I wasn't referring to performance enhancing supplements as much as I was risk prevention.

 

[GUARDIAN]

Thanks for the advice Guardian. I'll start upping the protein intake immediately. The only reason I was thinking of running some Winny is because I believe that I am prone to gyno, and I understand that Winny is supposed to combat this as well as boost strength. If that assumption is flawed, please correct me.

how do u know u r prone to gyno?

winny can act like a mild AI but u should still always have a "real" one on hand.

it is not a bad combo. but i would still hold off for awhile. also switch the dosing for winny from eod to 50mg ed. go eod with the prop.