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Beating The Polygraph!!!
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I heard this one from a friend who was brought up on two counts of arson. He was given a polygraph test and it showed that the results were inconclusive. The way he did it was by putting a ordinary thumb tack in his shoe. Every time the guy asked him a question he would press down on the tack as hard as he could. This would immediately make his heart rate and blood pressure go through the roof which showed the results to be inconclusive. Now this was obviously a extreme case, but he was desperate. The hardest part will be walking in with out a look of pain on your face, and then pressing down without anybody getting suspicious. Good luck and let me know how it turns out.
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decem
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mind if i ask why you're taking one?
also, if nycdefender happens to be reading this, are polygraphs considered to be admissable evidence?
also, if nycdefender happens to be reading this, are polygraphs considered to be admissable evidence?
ItalMonster
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Another good way to pass a poly is to just be a really good liar... As my parents told me, they can't tell the difference when I'm lieing and telling the truth, everything sounds perfect...lol My parents were and are strict, so I had to lie about a lot of stuff.... I really trained myself to just be calm and not do anything that would make it seem like I'm lieing... One thing that really works for me, is to just stare in the persons eyes whose asking me the questions... I never really take my eyes off them, I make eye contact so they think that I'm totally truthful, works all the time... Good luck on your poly, if you're taking one.
FriarFuckk
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www.polygraph.com it has all the info you need and it works too...
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flickenu
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I was reading an old Maxim issue, or Stuff, I cant remember which, but they had an article about how to beat a polygraph. One method was to do the thumbtack thing, but only on the questions that were irrelevant to the subject at hand. Such as- Is your name _____? Press down on the tack in your shoe right befoe you answer it, then answer, and it will raise your blood pressur and you will tense up. Then on a question that is relevant, such as, "Did you murder this man?" do NOT press down on he thumbtack, just answer it calmly and it will keep your blood pressure down. Then the reading will show that you had he same blood pressure, nervousness,etc on al the questions which means you pass. If shoving a tack in your foot and gettig tetanus doesnt sound very appealing, just clench the muscles in your body and pretend you just got caught masturbating by a nun when hey ask they irrelevant questions, and be cool on the serious questions. Good luck
AntiPolygraph.org
The site is actually AntiPolygraph.org, not .COM. Download the free book. It explains how to use physical and/or mental countermeasures to augment your responses to the control questions. This will create a “passing” chart.
Don't use a tack--biting your tongue or contracting your anal sphincter (I know it sounds sick) produces the same effect without running a risk of getting caught (the tack trick is well known and a suspicious polygrapher may ask to inspect your shoes). These physical countermeasures (when properly performed) cannot be detected by polygraphers.
Flickenu: I have both where Maxim wrote on beating the polygraph. They were March 2001 (p.157) and March 1998 (p.46)... The information provided in both issues was totally wrong.. On modern polygraph tests, the control questions are no longer "Is your name _________?," "Are you sitting down?," "Are the lights on in this room?," etc. Although your polygrapher will try to convince you that these are the control questions ("I need to know what it looks like when you are telling the truth.."), these type of questions are actually irrelevant questions are are not scored. Maxim fucked up in both "beat the lie detector issues" by helping to perpetuate this erroneous belief. Following their advice and augmenting responses to these questions will not affect the outcome of the test, because once again, they are not the control questions and are not scored.
So, where are the real control questions? With the format used in most polygraph tests, the control questions are questions disguised to appear like they are part of the subject of inquiry. Common control questions include "Are you an honest person?" "Have you ever betrayed a friend?" "Have you ever cheated in school?" "Have you ever stolen anything from an employer?," etc. The polygrapher will hem and haw in the pre-test interview about how important honesty is, etc. He wants you to answer "No" to these questions. When you do, he assumes your answer is a lie. Your response to the control questions is then compared to your response on "relevant questions" (i.e. "Have you ever used illegal drugs?").
Control Reaction > Relevant Reaction = Polygrapher says you are truthful
Relevant Reaction > Control Reaction = Polygrapher says you are lying
Both reactions roughly equal = Results inconclusive (as if the polygraph is ever conclusive).
Arms, Juiceman: Forget about ephedrine, weed, or any other drug. Drugs affect the whole test, not just specific questions. At best they may get you an inconclusive. Same goes for Ben Gay... Inconclusive is just as good as a fail in most situations (police jobs, etc). You need to pass...
Hayrab: The book is by Roy Johansen. Nonetheless, the AntiPolygraph.org info is more complete (and free).
And as far as the evidence/admissibility thing, NEVER submit to a polygraph if you are a suspect in a criminal investigation (even if you know how to beat it). The police use it primarily as an interrogation prop. You have a right to remain silent. USE IT...
The site is actually AntiPolygraph.org, not .COM. Download the free book. It explains how to use physical and/or mental countermeasures to augment your responses to the control questions. This will create a “passing” chart.
Don't use a tack--biting your tongue or contracting your anal sphincter (I know it sounds sick) produces the same effect without running a risk of getting caught (the tack trick is well known and a suspicious polygrapher may ask to inspect your shoes). These physical countermeasures (when properly performed) cannot be detected by polygraphers.
Flickenu: I have both where Maxim wrote on beating the polygraph. They were March 2001 (p.157) and March 1998 (p.46)... The information provided in both issues was totally wrong.. On modern polygraph tests, the control questions are no longer "Is your name _________?," "Are you sitting down?," "Are the lights on in this room?," etc. Although your polygrapher will try to convince you that these are the control questions ("I need to know what it looks like when you are telling the truth.."), these type of questions are actually irrelevant questions are are not scored. Maxim fucked up in both "beat the lie detector issues" by helping to perpetuate this erroneous belief. Following their advice and augmenting responses to these questions will not affect the outcome of the test, because once again, they are not the control questions and are not scored.
So, where are the real control questions? With the format used in most polygraph tests, the control questions are questions disguised to appear like they are part of the subject of inquiry. Common control questions include "Are you an honest person?" "Have you ever betrayed a friend?" "Have you ever cheated in school?" "Have you ever stolen anything from an employer?," etc. The polygrapher will hem and haw in the pre-test interview about how important honesty is, etc. He wants you to answer "No" to these questions. When you do, he assumes your answer is a lie. Your response to the control questions is then compared to your response on "relevant questions" (i.e. "Have you ever used illegal drugs?").
Control Reaction > Relevant Reaction = Polygrapher says you are truthful
Relevant Reaction > Control Reaction = Polygrapher says you are lying
Both reactions roughly equal = Results inconclusive (as if the polygraph is ever conclusive).
Arms, Juiceman: Forget about ephedrine, weed, or any other drug. Drugs affect the whole test, not just specific questions. At best they may get you an inconclusive. Same goes for Ben Gay... Inconclusive is just as good as a fail in most situations (police jobs, etc). You need to pass...
Hayrab: The book is by Roy Johansen. Nonetheless, the AntiPolygraph.org info is more complete (and free).
And as far as the evidence/admissibility thing, NEVER submit to a polygraph if you are a suspect in a criminal investigation (even if you know how to beat it). The police use it primarily as an interrogation prop. You have a right to remain silent. USE IT...
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