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Beast vs dbol

noodles1010

noodles1010

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I've been hung up for a while trying to decide what would be the best second cycle for me to run. I want lean mass. These were what I was looking at...

1)
test e @ 500mg wk 12 weeks
Beast @ 2-3 caps Ed for 4 weeks
Anavar @ 60mg Ed last 6 weeks

OR
Same cycle but instead of beast use 30mg day of dbol.
Except I need a full cycle set up for dbol cause I've read so many different cycles for it. I need one with a nice smooth recovery. Thinking end either one of those cycles blasting hcg @ 500iu 2x wk from week 7- 15 to help fill out the boys.

Suggestions or a full cycle front to back is appreciated, as well as what I'll have better results with.

29, 12%, 180, 6'0
 
I though you covered this in the other thread about beast?

Anyway dbol gives me killer dandruff but the strength gains are sweet. Haven't tried beast but am gonna incorporate it into my next cycle.
 
semper03 said:
I though you covered this in the other thread about beast?

Anyway dbol gives me killer dandruff but the strength gains are sweet. Haven't tried beast but am gonna incorporate it into my next cycle.
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Sorta. I had one on test and beast and another just on beast alone. I'm bouncing around the thought of dbol now and not sure pound for pound which ones better for what I'm looking for. I guess I'm kinda repeating myself a little in this thread
 
Ok so dbol is the winner. Now how much of those gains are we keeping vs beast? Or In general for that matter?
 
your going to get a lot of water gain on dbol that is not going to stick around man... just keep that in mind...
 
I've never run beast...but can say from experience that dbol is a great oral!...I don't think you'll be disappointed with it!
 
I've run dbol a few times, and everytime I crash horribly from it. When I stop using, my joints turn into rust and its hard to sleep. Coming off beast is so much easier for me so its a no brainer in my opinion. Stacked with test however, it's a little better, but then again so is beast. 1 vote for beast.
 
This surprised me...everyone on here raves about beast...thought Beast have btr strength gains then dbal Mg for Mg and thought beast Gabe btr keepable gains...makes me wonder if I should have got beast instead of dbal
 
25homes said:
This surprised me...everyone on here raves about beast...thought Beast have btr strength gains then dbal Mg for Mg and thought beast Gabe btr keepable gains...makes me wonder if I should have got beast instead of dbal
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Well you've got 4 more days to get a hold of some beast.
 
dylangemelli said:
your going to get a lot of water gain on dbol that is not going to stick around man... just keep that in mind...
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and when he sheds that water, underneath will be at least equal gains to beast... its just that the dbol you feel good, beast you feel like crap...

beast is more toxic... more sides... both give pretty similar gains maybe edge to dbol... only ran each once as neither beat winnny imo.... but that is another story...
 
25homes said:
This surprised me...everyone on here raves about beast...thought Beast have btr strength gains then dbal Mg for Mg and thought beast Gabe btr keepable gains...makes me wonder if I should have got beast instead of dbal
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mg for mg is not applicable in real life... you take what you can tolerate....
50mg dbol gives me less sides (estro ones can be stopped) than 20mg beast... 30mg beast and i feel like shit from its toxicity...
 
Ok well let's talk about sides too. What sides are you getting from 30mg dbol Ed vs 30mg beast Ed? and what do you have to do to combat them?
Since everyone's saying gains are damn near the same pound for pound. (less water retention) Let's see how much attention one requires vs the other as far as sides go.
 
with beast you have to worry about lethargy, headaches, pumps, possible acne and agression... dbol would be gyno and water retention... you will get more sides with beast but cleaner gains...
 
dylangemelli said:
with beast you have to worry about lethargy, headaches, pumps, possible acne and agression... dbol would be gyno and water retention... you will get more sides with beast but cleaner gains...
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Wow... I would have thought that beast was a smoother go around than dbol but IMO its looking like dbol would be easier over all. Or am I just bein a pussy lolol
 
Noodles1010 said:
Wow... I would have thought that beast was a smoother go around than dbol but IMO its looking like dbol would be easier over all. Or am I just bein a pussy lolol
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You're being a pussy.





Lol jk never ran beast. As long as it doesn't give me dandruff like dbol it's gonna be fav.
 
semper03 said:
You're being a pussy.





Lol jk never ran beast. As long as it doesn't give me dandruff like dbol it's gonna be fav.
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Lmao I read that like wtf really?! Lmao, I think I'll run the dbol first then.
Follow my third with beast for fun.

Anyone got a cycle for test e and dbol with ai, and pct? I gotta start buying this shit now. I got a feeling it isn't gonna be so kind on the wallet.
 
Noodles1010 said:
Lmao I read that like wtf really?! Lmao, I think I'll run the dbol first then.
Follow my third with beast for fun.

Anyone got a cycle for test e and dbol with ai, and pct? I gotta start buying this shit now. I got a feeling it isn't gonna be so kind on the wallet.
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That's what my last cycle was.

1-4 dbol 40mg Ed
1-10 Test e 750mg wk
Liquidex .5mg eod
Forma stanzol 5/5

Pct
Post cycle
Unleashed
Forma
Powdered daa
 
semper03 said:
That's what my last cycle was.

1-4 dbol 40mg Ed
1-10 Test e 750mg wk
Liquidex .5mg eod
Forma stanzol 5/5

Pct
Post cycle
Unleashed
Forma
Powdered daa
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Did you run blood after? Just wondering how the recovery was...
Also if I throw in some anavar at 60mg Ed for the last 6 weeks would I have to add anything for that?
 
I ran bloods during but lost my insurance so I didnt run them after. I posted them up on here. Personally I think recovery was good, like I said my main thing that hit me the hardest was the damn dandruff. Never had it till I ran dbol.

I've never ran var before but am incorporating it into my upcoming cycle and from the advice I got from here you should add N2Guard and lipid stabil while on anavar.

Here's my bloods on cycle

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=937733
 
Noodles1010 said:
Lmao I read that like wtf really?! Lmao, I think I'll run the dbol first then.
Follow my third with beast for fun.

Anyone got a cycle for test e and dbol with ai, and pct? I gotta start buying this shit now. I got a feeling it isn't gonna be so kind on the wallet.
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bro, a test e and dbol cycle is as inexpensive as it gets...

as for the var, i think youre fine adding that at the end, just drink more water... nothing offers better cleansing than that. period.
 
semper03 said:
I ran bloods during but lost my insurance so I didnt run them after. I posted them up on here. Personally I think recovery was good, like I said my main thing that hit me the hardest was the damn dandruff. Never had it till I ran dbol.

I've never ran var before but am incorporating it into my upcoming cycle and from the advice I got from here you should add N2Guard and lipid stabil while on anavar.

Here's my bloods on cycle

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=937733
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I ran a low dose 40mg ed of liquid var last cycle and I loved it. Next cycle is 60mg... I woke up DRENCHED at least 3 times a week. Keep spare sheets by the bed and get used to showering in the middle of the night. First time it happened I thought I pissed in my bed. It was weird and I was confused lol
 
Noodles1010 said:
I ran a low dose 40mg ed of liquid var last cycle and I loved it. Next cycle is 60mg... I woke up DRENCHED at least 3 times a week. Keep spare sheets by the bed and get used to showering in the middle of the night. First time it happened I thought I pissed in my bed. It was weird and I was confused lol
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Hahaha yea I had that happen to me while on tren. Fucking drenched.
 
1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-4 dbol 30 mg day
1-4 n2guard
7-14 hcg 500 ius' week or hcgenerate
9-14 anavar 60 mg day first four weeks then bump to 80 mg last 2 weeks
9-14 proviron 75 mg day
9-14 n2guard

pct
15-18 clomid 25/25/25/25
15-18 unleashed/post cycle combo
15-18 forma stanzol
15-18 daa powerchews or powder
 
dylangemelli said:
1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-4 dbol 30 mg day
1-4 n2guard
7-14 hcg 500 ius' week or hcgenerate
9-14 anavar 60 mg day first four weeks then bump to 80 mg last 2 weeks
9-14 proviron 75 mg day
9-14 n2guard

pct
15-18 clomid 25/25/25/25
15-18 unleashed/post cycle combo
15-18 forma stanzol
15-18 daa powerchews or powder
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I like this :)

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dylangemelli said:
1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-4 dbol 30 mg day
1-4 n2guard
7-14 hcg 500 ius' week or hcgenerate
9-14 anavar 60 mg day first four weeks then bump to 80 mg last 2 weeks
9-14 proviron 75 mg day
9-14 n2guard

pct
15-18 clomid 25/25/25/25
15-18 unleashed/post cycle combo
15-18 forma stanzol
15-18 daa powerchews or powder
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Ooooh hot mama daddy likeeee... Lmao
Seems my balls are as stubborn as rubber tires u think this will be enough to get a smooth strong recovery d?

Oh and the training is no problem. I go hard till failure.
Diet... Eeh might need some proper direction there cause this mother fucker right here loves some ny pizza and cheese steaks lol. Summer has been bad for me lol i brought shame to the word diet
 
^^^^^^^^!! LOL. Can't beat NY pizza an cheesesteaks is right brotha!!! Its gotta be the water man. I live in jersey an the pizza blows compared to NY. Actually..all food blows in jersey compared to NY. I know this has nothing to do with the thread. Had to rep for NY food!!
 
I am not even going to touch on new york pizza... even I can't have self control when im there... fuck... =)

bro, that pct will be very strong...
 
Vinchezo79 said:
^^^^^^^^!! LOL. Can't beat NY pizza an cheesesteaks is right brotha!!! Its gotta be the water man. I live in jersey an the pizza blows compared to NY. Actually..all food blows in jersey compared to NY. I know this has nothing to do with the thread. Had to rep for NY food!!
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I don't think it's the food. Pretty sure that whole state blows bro. Lol

I'll take you up on that one noodle
 
dylangemelli said:
1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-4 dbol 30 mg day
1-4 n2guard
7-14 hcg 500 ius' week or hcgenerate
9-14 anavar 60 mg day first four weeks then bump to 80 mg last 2 weeks
9-14 proviron 75 mg day
9-14 n2guard

pct
15-18 clomid 25/25/25/25
15-18 unleashed/post cycle combo
15-18 forma stanzol
15-18 daa powerchews or powder
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Sounds sweet. I might put my prop on hold
 
LOL deff bro. I can't stand NJ, but born an raised. The in laws are in the city, so when the wife an I go there it's hard not to hit every place i see. I would move to the city in heartbeat, the wife..not so much. Ok EF cheat day!!! let's hit the island grab a slice an work out! LOL
 
When I do this I definitely will with progress pics as well. I think this is gonna be one for the books and with my body structure it should show massive transformation. So much for everyone around me not knowing I'm on the sauce lol o well.
 
A little off topic... What's the difference really between test cyp and e? I've been reading and they seem to be the same what am I missing?
 
They are, its a different ester but no actual difference. Even for trt they will interchange them.

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training700 said:
They are, its a different ester but no actual difference. Even for trt they will interchange them.

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Different ester meaning? Does one have a longer half life than the other? Or is just the make up of the test different?
 
Same half life one is slightly heavier and the other slightly longer which ends up equalling same. If look at actual ester there very similar. Don't even worry about it whatever can get cheaper or from a better quality source go for it

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Thanks for the info bro. Shit had me wondering and I just couldn't find the difference. Every breakdown said the same thing for both of em.
 
Eat the pizza bro. And that cycle btw is pretty much the shit. If it were sold in a box, I wouldn't need anything else ever again.
 
digit0x said:
Eat the pizza bro. And that cycle btw is pretty much the shit. If it were sold in a box, I wouldn't need anything else ever again.
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Sheiiiit... Out in Arizona right now. All healthy food here :/ WHERE'S THE GARBAGE?!?! Lolol
Yea bro that cycle is gonna be insane. Fuckin pumped over it to say the least.
 
dylangemelli said:
1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-4 dbol 30 mg day
1-4 n2guard
7-14 hcg 500 ius' week or hcgenerate
9-14 anavar 60 mg day first four weeks then bump to 80 mg last 2 weeks
9-14 proviron 75 mg day
9-14 n2guard

pct
15-18 clomid 25/25/25/25
15-18 unleashed/post cycle combo
15-18 forma stanzol
15-18 daa powerchews or powder
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D, I'm being told that I should run my clomid 100/100/50/50.... That's a HUGE difference compared to what we came up with here. I trust your judgment. What do u think? And for shits, giggles and general knowledge, tell me why please cause that seems high...
 
Noodles1010 said:
D, I'm being told that I should run my clomid 100/100/50/50.... That's a HUGE difference compared to what we came up with here. I trust your judgment. What do u think? And for shits, giggles and general knowledge, tell me why please cause that seems high...
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All you will get running it that high is terrible side effects and a miserable fucking pct... Do what you want but thats terrible dosing of it


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dylangemelli said:
All you will get running it that high is terrible side effects and a miserable fucking pct... Do what you want but thats terrible dosing of it


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Nah ill do without the sides. I trust ya... Just wondering.
 
that may have been the standard protocol some time ago, but a lot of the otc products that are available now, were not available then so that's why the dosing was done that high... its not necessary to do that now...
 
dylangemelli said:
that may have been the standard protocol some time ago, but a lot of the otc products that are available now, were not available then so that's why the dosing was done that high... its not necessary to do that now...
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Yea I've read of horrible sides on that shit. Depression ect... Pct sucks enough on its own I don't want to deal with unnecessary fucked up sides...
Ill prolly run it 50/25/25/25 just to get it going in my system. I have all necessary shit accounted for right?
 
Noodles1010 said:
Yea I've read of horrible sides on that shit. Depression ect... Pct sucks enough on its own I don't want to deal with unnecessary fucked up sides...
Ill prolly run it 50/25/25/25 just to get it going in my system. I have all necessary shit accounted for right?
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yes bro, your all good... your overthinking and second guessing way too much... everything is fine man
 
dylangemelli said:
yes bro, your all good... your overthinking and second guessing way too much... everything is fine man
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Lmao that's what I do... I just want to make sure I have all my bases covered. I fucked up my first cycle. I been reading and researching my ass off. I just don't want to have a repeat of my first.
I started my diet today, oatmeal and 3 eggs for breakfast, chicken and string beans for lunch, more chicken for afternoon snack, some nuts, whey2build muscle protein shakes with those, fish and vegetables for dinner, and ill switch it all up so I don't get sick of this sooner than later.
Taking creatine nitrate and n.o. Xplode pre workout... Took a 3 week break from the gym but that's a whole different story. So im back to going hard in the gym and dieting now... Gotta get my hands on some unleashed and post cycle, and finish gearing up, but this is the plan so far.

Any more advice? Like take a Valium or seek help lmfao!
 
Noodles1010 said:
Lmao that's what I do... I just want to make sure I have all my bases covered. I fucked up my first cycle. I been reading and researching my ass off. I just don't want to have a repeat of my first.
I started my diet today, oatmeal and 3 eggs for breakfast, chicken and string beans for lunch, more chicken for afternoon snack, some nuts, whey2build muscle protein shakes with those, fish and vegetables for dinner, and ill switch it all up so I don't get sick of this sooner than later.
Taking creatine nitrate and n.o. Xplode pre workout... Took a 3 week break from the gym but that's a whole different story. So im back to going hard in the gym and dieting now... Gotta get my hands on some unleashed and post cycle, and finish gearing up, but this is the plan so far.

Any more advice? Like take a Valium or seek help lmfao!
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Weed and xanax and your good to go! Lollll bro overthinking is just as bad as underthinking... You have all your bases covered


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