Beast Cycle

[HAFreps]

hey guys i have a few questions about doing a beastdrol cycle
stats are 26 years old, weight is around 250lbs, 6ft tall, bodyfats at around 15% been bodybuilding for about 4 and a half years competed for the first time back in jan
what i want to do with beast is add more mass

My question is mrsupps has the beginner stack already set up or they recommend unleashed and postcycle to be taken with beast, which would be the preferred way for my first cycle? Is there anything else anyone recommends i take with this cycle? thanks guys

 

[dylangemelli]

hey guys i have a few questions about doing a beastdrol cycle
stats are 26 years old, weight is around 250lbs, 6ft tall, bodyfats at around 15% been bodybuilding for about 4 and a half years competed for the first time back in jan
what i want to do with beast is add more mass

My question is mrsupps has the beginner stack already set up or they recommend unleashed and postcycle to be taken with beast, which would be the preferred way for my first cycle? Is there anything else anyone recommends i take with this cycle? thanks guys

here's how i would run it

beast 20/30/30/30
N2Guard
RS- Transaderm - 5-7 pumps a day
fish oil
creatine nitrate
forma stanzol - start mid cycle and run through pct...

pct
clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
unleashed
forged post cycle
need2slin
lean xtreme
creatine nitrate...

 

[Laxfiend]

here's how i would run it

beast 20/30/30/30
N2Guard
RS- Transaderm - 5-7 pumps a day
fish oil
creatine nitrate
forma stanzol - start mid cycle and run through pct...

pct
clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
unleashed
forged post cycle
need2slin
lean xtreme
creatine nitrate...

This works great but personally i like to have my nuts fat so i can still bang while on cycle. So get some hcgenerate and DAA and run it weeks 1-8 or just hcgen weeks 1-4 with DAA then unleashed and DAA for weeks 4-8. Just eat a ton of carbs on top of that!

 

[HAFreps]

Thanks guys have some reading to do on whats listed here. I appreciate the advice!

 

[HAFreps]

I am now in to my second week of beast and about to up the dose from 20mg to 30 and am just wondering if I should be splitting it in to 3 differnt times or take 20mg in the am and 10mg later on?

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[dylangemelli]

I am now in to my second week of beast and about to up the dose from 20mg to 30 and am just wondering if I should be splitting it in to 3 differnt times or take 20mg in the am and 10mg later on?

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20 then 10

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[HAFreps]

thanks bro

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[dylangemelli]

anytime man

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[zipzopzippity]

Why 20 and then 10 versus 10 / 10 / 10 ?

 

[Goat23]

Yep why the 20 straight up.I spaced mine at 30,every 6 hours.6am,12pm,6pm.then at 40 just added a 12 am to!was that wrong guys??next cycle should I do different?lol soz for the hijack!

 

[bigbassturd]

He's assuming your doing an a.m. workout.

Splitting it is just fine too bros...

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[zipzopzippity]

Yep, and if it were an afternoon workout a lot of people would suggest to take 1 morning and 2 pre workout. 2 pre workout to me suggests that there is some kind of workout enhancement that scales with dosage quantities. I made a thread about it earlier and peeps claimed they feel additional benefits from a higher dosage before gym time but no one has explained why or how it works.

OP, I think you are cutting yourself short doing a 1/2 vs 1/1/1. In my opinion, after your workout your body could use some of that glorious beastdrol for glycogen storage and muscle fiber repair. Keep your body saturated as much as possible throughout the duration of the cycle. Post workout is one of the most important variables in this sport/hobby, so include some anabolics before and after to maximize the benefits.

 

[oxymoron]

If u only have 10mg caps and u were taking 20mg/day then it seems nearly impossible to keep bloods in check due to the short half life right?

Would it make more sense to up the dosage to 3 caps, 1 cap every 8 hrs so ur fairly level over a 24 hr period?

I did find some info saying better results can be expected at lower doses if ur dose for example is 20mg/day and u took the two caps apprx one hr pre workout for the max str gain as its impossible to spread 2 pills to maintain blood levels due to the 6-8 hr half life.

anyone have experience with this?

 

[zipzopzippity]

Taking an oral AAS before a workout isn't going to make your workout better, this is all just in peoples heads. If this were true, people would feel the effects from superdrol the first day/pill they took it. The reason they don't is because these aren't "pre-workout" supplements.

You feel the effects a few days or weeks (depends on what it is) after the initial dosage of the compound. Example: you knock out some bench presses and that same day you start your 30mg a day superdrol. 5 days later you bench again and start feeling stronger since your body has been able to build muscle, repair muscle, load em up with carb fuel all stronger/faster in those last 5 days than when your drug free.

That being said, I don't see at all how increasing the horomone levels in your blood an hour before a workout is going to enhance your workout. It doesn't add up at all. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong with some logic or documentation versus "how you feel" aka placebo

 

[oxymoron]

yeah zip I get ya on the preworkout theory particularly with sdrol as I've read 5-9 days for the physiological changes to really kick in causing increased muscle mass/strength. But that brings me back to the issue of beast having such a short half life and spreading the doses. As its a 10mg cap it almost sounds better to run it at 30mg/day (over 20mg) so u can dose every 8 hrs as sdrol ranges from 6-8 hr half-life and have somewhat leveled blood.

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[zipzopzippity]

Honestly it probably doesn't matter all that much. 20 or 30, before workout,after, morning/evening. I just see a lot of peeps advocating dosing high(er) pre work out because it will enhance your workout and I'm calling bs. A lot of the guys here are very knowledgable and have good advice and years of experience, but there's always some bro-science creeping around so I thought id mop it up as long as the discussion was active.

I think 20 vs 30 would be a decision to make based on your body weight, the time you've been drug free etc. If you've been off for a long time your bodys gonna blow up no matter what dosage, if you've been on relatively recently then you might want to consider 30.

 

[HAFreps]

I still haven't noticed any changes in strength or mass. The only thing I seem to be feeling from beast is tightness almost like a spasm everyday in my lower back. Also even with a decent carb intake I can't seem to be fully awake. Is this normal?

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[bigbassturd]

Absolutely bro, back pumps are one of the most common sides, and so is lethargy.

To solve both of these issues, try a moderate dose of taurine.

Let us know how it works man

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[HAFreps]

Alright what are we talking in grams or miligrams? I have now l-taurine @1000mg caps

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[oxymoron]

I looked into this and what i found is that it peaks at about 1.5 to 2 hrs in the system after oral admin.
Then its half life is around 4 hrs after that. i've got a cool chart from this study but ur not plat hafreps and i don't remember my acct for picture storage.
Anyways i'd say take it 3-4 spread out dosages. And by the the way they did the study at 4grams but it doesn't explain why. I use 1gram before workouts to relieve pumps and cramps and it works at that dosage.

 

[HAFreps]

Taurine def is helping the back pumps. I was at work a bit longer than I hoped today and didnt grab any before I left the house so I grabbed a redbull from the bar from what I could find 1 redbull has 1000mg of it so it worked in a pinch. Will def make sure I have the caps with me at all times though. Energy drinks are shitty. Thanks for all the help bros

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[bigbassturd]

Anytime man, always like to know we've helped a good bro out! Now kill that shit and eat big! Good luck!

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