Beast bad for first cycle?

[tryna get hench]

Ive heard alot of people say beastdrol is bad for a first cycle, but i still dont understand why? Is it because of the side effects? Can u not handle them for a first cycle? With the right on cycle support whats so bad about running it? Some others say its fine to run. Just wanted to know what your opinions are on this matter, im not a stubborn person but when I recieve an opinion I always believe its important to understand the theory behind the opinion.....

 

[Youngncurious]

Beast is a superdrol clone..it is known for its beautiful strength gains and can put on mass quite well. However it comes with some harsh side effects like high bp, lethargy..etc. it's also really harsh on the liver because of its carbon position. It is one of the greatest aas out there and I love the damn thing. But if one were to run it they NEED to incorporate n2guard to control bp and protect all vital organs and some hcgenerate to keep your nuts nice and full. Post and unleashed are thrown in for pct as well as forma..but like you said for first cycle? I would for more of something along the lines of helladrol, great gains come from it! I'm currently on cycle of hella/Katana and I'm killing it. Hella and katana are still bad ass aas and I would choose hella as your first but that's up to you

 

[Youngncurious]

And I see Dylangemelli set up a nice hella cycle for you in your past topics, run it just like that.

 

[stevesmi]

its fine to run for a first cycle as long as you aren't an alcoholic (just like any AAS) and you run it at a low dose and run on cycle support N2guard is best, but atleast run liver support just like all orals.

 

[tryna get hench]

but isnt all orals really harsh on the liver? and I was thinking why not make the most of your virgin receptors, if I were to run hella and then beast wouldnt I be destroying my liver more than just running beast nd getting the super gains rather than the two...

 

[Youngncurious]

They all range to how harsh they are, some can me mildly harsh to extremely harsh. And I don't get what your trying to say above? You give rest in between cycles time on+pct= recovery time, which this allows your body to get back at a normal state, liver values, blood pressure etc..hope that answers it? If not keep shooting em at me

 

[stevesmi]

but isnt all orals really harsh on the liver? and I was thinking why not make the most of your virgin receptors, if I were to run hella and then beast wouldnt I be destroying my liver more than just running beast nd getting the super gains rather than the two...

as long as you cycle off for a period of time your 'virgin receptors' (which is up for debate) will be fine.

example: i spent most of last year natty. this year I started my cycle in late Jan. my results were tremendous and i broke through strength and size barriers and I look the best i've ever looked

if you are trying to bust through a barrier beastdrol is the one to use, it will get you over the top.

 

[tryna get hench]

No ofcourse I would atleast wait 3-4 months after PCT to run another cycle, what im trying to say is why not run beast straight away if you are eventually going to run it anyway and it would still have the same sides either way? Im just trying to find out why exactly its not good for a first cycle? people say test isnt good because I heard it causes so much bloat that its unappealing yet some people cant do a cycle without running it.

after my beast cycle, the next cycle after that would be a straight up injection cycle so I could see the difference between the gains an oral can produce and a inectable produces. therefore my liver would be rested for a quite long period of time as I wouldnt be running an oral until probably another year after the beast...

 

[Colstreamer]

Not all orals are harsh on the liver, as I recall katanadrol isn't liver toxic (although I could be wrong!) there are different schools of thought on first cycles, some say straight test others will say dbol or something else... Like Steve said, it's fine as long as you have the right cycle support and start with a low dose. Some people get a banging headache and severe lethargy from just one cap of beast without the right support supps.

I think the main reason people suggest milder compounds for first cycles is to introduce them to handling the sides so they'll know what to expect when they cycle again with stronger juice. Whatever you choose make sure to research it thoroughly, which it appears you are doing, and make sure to have everything you need before starting.

 

[stevesmi]

No ofcourse I would atleast wait 3-4 months after PCT to run another cycle, what im trying to say is why not run beast straight away if you are eventually going to run it anyway and it would still have the same sides either way? Im just trying to find out why exactly its not good for a first cycle? people say test isnt good because I heard it causes so much bloat that its unappealing yet some people cant do a cycle without running it.

after my beast cycle, the next cycle after that would be a straight up injection cycle so I could see the difference between the gains an oral can produce and a inectable produces. therefore my liver would be rested for a quite long period of time as I wouldnt be running an oral until probably another year after the beast...

why not use beastdrol as a kickstart or end to an injectable cycle then?

 

[tryna get hench]

Thanks colstreamer for the great advice , and stevesmi I wanted to go for beastdrol only for my first cycle because when I posted a cycle which I was going to run with beast weeks 1-4 and test e 1-10, you suggested that I would get better gains if I was to run beast on its own and then test on its own a few months after that...

 

[thedarkhalf]

I would rather see you do something else like helldrol or maybe even an epistane clone....but doing beast for your first cycle won't kill you

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks colstreamer for the great advice , and stevesmi I wanted to go for beastdrol only for my first cycle because when I posted a cycle which I was going to run with beast weeks 1-4 and test e 1-10, you suggested that I would get better gains if I was to run beast on its own and then test on its own a few months after that...

i dont remember that but i must have had a reason for recommending that strategy. probably because running single compounds is a good idea for a newb. i think if you do this you would be very pleased with where you are at 6 months down the road either way as long as you kill it

 

[RickRock13]

Anything can be used as a first cycle if you are sensible with doses and take the proper precautions for supports and estrogen/prolactin control.

The problem is most people aren't sensible when starting out.

If you keep your dose of Beast on the lower side and take all the proper precautions....I don't see why you couldn't run it as a first cycle.

If you decide to run 30mg out of the gate with no supports, don't come crying to us about side effects though....because we will say we told you so!!

 

[tryna get hench]

Anything can be used as a first cycle if you are sensible with doses and take the proper precautions for supports and estrogen/prolactin control.

The problem is most people aren't sensible when starting out.

If you keep your dose of Beast on the lower side and take all the proper precautions....I don't see why you couldn't run it as a first cycle.

If you decide to run 30mg out of the gate with no supports, don't come crying to us about side effects though....because we will say we told you so!!

I was thinking of running it at 20mg and see how it goes

 

[DopedGoat]

Why not just run test E for 12 week ? If you fear injection then don't cycle

 

[tryna get hench]

Why not just run test E for 12 week ? If you fear injection then don't cycle

Because I do not currently have any access to sources for aas.

 

[NTL]

Im running Beast and proper support supplements as my first cyle and beside some back pumps have had no sides. I started at 20mg the first week then went to 30mg second week. I will run 4th week at 40mg as long as I still dont have any bad sides.

 

[tryna get hench]

Im running Beast and proper support supplements as my first cyle and beside some back pumps have had no sides. I started at 20mg the first week then went to 30mg second week. I will run 4th week at 40mg as long as I still dont have any bad sides.

Glad to hear its going good man!!! What kind of gains have you seen so far if you dont mind me asking?

 

[DopedGoat]

Im running Beast and proper support supplements as my first cyle and beside some back pumps have had no sides. I started at 20mg the first week then went to 30mg second week. I will run 4th week at 40mg as long as I still dont have any bad sides.

First cycle I wouldn't go over 30mg as sides could be bad it's a strong steroid so I've heard be carefull

 

[musclefunk]

I'm 3 weeks into a first cycle of any aas. 40mg beast cycle. I got the mr. Supps stack for it. I love it. I went from 177 to 191 so far, no change in bf % range on my scale. 3 beast a day and one 10mg of a superdrol clone for 40mg a day. I have used finistride for about a year and continued. Thought about upping to 50mg for last week because of no sides besides boughts of lethargy sometimes after taking a pill.

Maybe the finistride, I also am taking toco-8, and liquid glucosamine msms I always take, plus the mr supps support, or maybe never drinking alcohol,whatever reason I am not getting mean sides I am thankful for. But I would heartily recomend the beast!


I am so sick of eating, I have eaten so much for that weight, I have no idea how I am going to keep it up through pct. I have never eaten this much and that's why I was stuck at 177 but this beast + diet killed it.

I'm 32 yo 5'10. With about 2 years lifting, but I work 60 hours a week so its been hard to stay anabolic... But the beast was good to me....

 

[NTL]

Weight up from 236 to 243 and strength increases are very noticeable.

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