cialis will pump that sucker up, i used liquid from ag and the real thing in a sample pack. same for me. 20mg is way too much for me. i don't have ed either but i was shut down after a cycle and couldn't bust so i tried cialis, didn't work for that so i have a bunch on hand, proviron was the only thing that fixed it. but i popped one not too long ago cause my girl thought it would be funny, we were are a hotel, the boner never went down a bit after nutting a few times, the next morning after going again i can't go to breakfast or anything this thing would raise right up if she even touched me. we went shopping and just the sight of victoria secret gave me giant boners. shit that stuff works for real. liquid or pill, never tried bd but if it works as well as their tbol its good to go.