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Base testosterone levels affect impact of test injections?

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This may be a dumb question but I was wondering whether the anabolic effects of 400mgs/week testosterone are the affected by the base testosterone levels in your system? I know that different guys respond differently to testosterone, but I was wondering whether there have been any studies on this. For example, my base levels are really low (209 or something like that). Lets say another guy's base levels are 500 or whatever. Assuming all other factors are equal (an impossible assumption, I know), should his anabolic response be greater than mine because his total testosterone level would be higher than mine or would my response be greater because my % increase is greater? Or does none of that matter, i.e. if the anabolic effects of testosterone are based solely upon free testosterone and not total base testosterone levels?
 
Seconds said:
This may be a dumb question but I was wondering whether the anabolic effects of 400mgs/week testosterone are the affected by the base testosterone levels in your system? I know that different guys respond differently to testosterone, but I was wondering whether there have been any studies on this. For example, my base levels are really low (209 or something like that). Lets say another guy's base levels are 500 or whatever. Assuming all other factors are equal (an impossible assumption, I know), should his anabolic response be greater than mine because his total testosterone level would be higher than mine or would my response be greater because my % increase is greater? Or does none of that matter, i.e. if the anabolic effects of testosterone are based solely upon free testosterone and not total base testosterone levels?

This is an excellent question. Hopefully one of the senior members can shed some light, I'm sure a lot of us would like to know the answer.
 
The levels of test your body produces on its own is a fraction of what you will be injecting each day/week etc. Its not going to make a difference.

Plus once you start taking test its going to start causing your own bodys production of test to shut down, so what you had is going to be nil.
 
ViperHMS said:
The levels of test your body produces on its own is a fraction of what you will be injecting each day/week etc. Its not going to make a difference.

Plus once you start taking test its going to start causing your own bodys production of test to shut down, so what you had is going to be nil.

i agree, but i think his question is whether one who had a natty higher level has physiological makeup that would let him better use or take up available test--or vice versa--not that i have a clue :confused: but a good question
 
eddymerckx said:
i agree, but i think his question is whether one who had a natty higher level has physiological makeup that would let him better use or take up available test--or vice versa--not that i have a clue :confused: but a good question



He is basically saying that if guy one has a base level of 100 and guy two has a base level of 200; if both guys take 400mg of test week will either guy show better results? Thats how I see it.

I dont see how if someone normally produces a higher level of test would allow that individual to "better use or take up available test" those are two different things. I could be wrong, but i've never read or heard anything that there is a ratio between the production of test in the body and the amount of available receptors.
 
Good question.....I think it all depends on the genetic make up of the person and how well their bodies uses the test. I think receptors play an important role as well
This is evident in many cases for example where a person does 500mg EW and gets all kind of sides and others who can do the the same with no sides basically crusing at that dosage
 
were is tatyana when you need her--the more i think about this the more i want to know--I mean we all know the 300 pounder monster who takes fairly low doses and the stick figure that inject with a turkey baster--besids genetics, there has to be a matabolism/receptor element
 
great question. It wont make much of a difference at all. Cuz once your body adjusts to the test your bodys own test production will stop.
 
I guess it would come down to free levels of test. But assuming you had the exact same genetics 500mg per week should theoretically affect you exactly the same regardless of natty levels because there would potentially already be a difference between you two at 200 and 500 naturally. But as they said, natural production would shut down, so it probably wouldn't matter.
 
I think there are two many variations to make a conclusive argument one way or the other. Every individual is different and the way they react to exogenous test injections will also be slightly different regardless of the original free test levles of that individual.

My best guess would be given your original assumption if everything for both individuals was identical excepting their free test levels I would hesitate to guess that they would react identically once exogenous est was introduced.

A thought provoking question nonetheless.
 
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