Barry to to let illegal immigrants seek work permits

[mrplunkey]

I totally understand that this is the obvious answer, but I would have to think that someone in either party would stand up and say no.

Increase the deficit, no and a whole lot of arguing.

Allow work permits for illegals, sure why not?


It's just further proof to me that there isn't one side or the other anymore.

Hispanics are a demographics issue. They're around 16% of our population. So let's say one party woos them and they break 75%/25%. Well (75%-25%)*16% = 8% -- which is well beyond the margin for most US elections.

Similar analysis explains why we cannot fix Medicare or Social Security.

But hispanics aren't our ultimate class to coddle. We've got two up-and-coming classes that will need even more attention:

1) People who pay no taxes versus people who carry most of the load.

2) Fat people, who now represent 66% of americans. When people talk about imposing insurance penalties on obese people, I laugh my ass off. Not only will that not happen -- that group will be a protected class well within the next 5-10 years.

 

[kx250rider]

It's pandering by both sides to secure the latino vote.

Lots of people say that, but I'm not sure... I have many Mexican-born friends, who "did it the hard way" and are here legally (in the voting public), and they despise the illegals. Of course if the illegals have fake ID from a dead or underage American, which some do, they might vote.

Putting my hardline Right political views aside, I think we have WAY too many illegals here to deport all of them. The only thing I see sensible to do, is SEAL THAT BORDER NOW!!!!!!!!!, and then weed through the illegals who are here, and deport the welfare recipients, the criminals of course, and the nonsupporting fathers, etc etc. But the ones who snuck in here about 20 years ago, and been working and riding bicycles to work (not driving illegally), might be OK to let stay. We just don't have the resources to round up and deport 10 million illegals, and seal and patrol the border all at the same time. And quite honestly, would any of us really want the jobs that illegals seem to be accepting? And don't say kids, because with the child labor laws, and the OSHA breathing down employers' necks, and lawsuits, nobody under 18 is getting any job other than maybe at the grocery store or mall. Believe me, they're not going to be hired to swing a pick axe or pick vegetables in today's legal atmosphere.

Charles

 

[EnderJE]

I can see that the fat people issue will become an issue soon.

I guess the advertisements of Wall Street was too good?

Hispanics are a demographics issue. They're around 16% of our population. So let's say one party woos them and they break 75%/25%. Well (75%-25%)*16% = 8% -- which is well beyond the margin for most US elections.

Similar analysis explains why we cannot fix Medicare or Social Security.

But hispanics aren't our ultimate class to coddle. We've got two up-and-coming classes that will need even more attention:

1) People who pay no taxes versus people who carry most of the load.

2) Fat people, who now represent 66% of americans. When people talk about imposing insurance penalties on obese people, I laugh my ass off. Not only will that not happen -- that group will be a protected class well within the next 5-10 years.

 

[brownbrown]

I'm sure as fuck am not going to go pick produce for 16 hours a day in 110 degree heat for $50 a day.
And I sure as hell like my fresh produce at its current price.
I used to live in the California Valley and they work hard.
So cry your hearts out about the working immigrants... They put food in your grocery store at a "decent" price.

 

[mrplunkey]

I'm sure as fuck am not going to go pick produce for 16 hours a day in 110 degree heat for $50 a day.
And I sure as hell like my fresh produce at its current price.
I used to live in the California Valley and they work hard.
So cry your hearts out about the working immigrants... They put food in your grocery store at a "decent" price.

So your desire for less expensive produce justifies breaking US laws, systematically violating our border and aiding in the development of drug and sex trade channels?

Given that, does this mean legally shipping a job to China so someone else can buy something cheaper is good as well?

 

[brownbrown]

So your desire for less expensive produce justifies breaking US laws, systematically violating our border and aiding in the development of drug and sex trade channels?

Given that, does this mean legally shipping a job to China so someone else can buy something cheaper is good as well?

WOW ASSumption central..... The thread title does state WORK PERMITS doesnt it? Not HIRE ILLEGAL WORKERS.
So ummm yea man.... Try to peddle your assumtions on someone else.

 

[EnderJE]

WOW ASSumption central..... The thread title does state WORK PERMITS doesnt it? Not HIRE ILLEGAL WORKERS.
So ummm yea man.... Try to peddle your assumtions on someone else.

Ah...the title said illegal immigrants seeking work permits.

I can appreciate that you like the low cost of produce, but there is a cost to it (that might not be immediately visible to you).

 

[mrplunkey]

Ah...the title said illegal immigrants seeking work permits.

I can appreciate that you like the low cost of produce, but there is a cost to it (that might not be immediately visible to you).

He's using liberal logic. Don't try to stop something illegal that clashes with your goals -- just legalize it.

 

[brownbrown]

Ah...the title said illegal immigrants seeking work permits.

I can appreciate that you like the low cost of produce, but there is a cost to it (that might not be immediately visible to you).

Once they have work permits is not Illegal to have them work. And the chunk of them are migrant workers

 

[brownbrown]

He's using liberal logic. Don't try to stop something illegal that clashes with your goals -- just legalize it.

WTF?
1. I'm not a "liberal"
2. Thats the goals of the GOP there killer. Oil,Coal,Natural Gas,Capitol gains, Wallstreet, Banking, Ending OSHA, EPA. So again, tell me whos Logic was it?
You sir have just pointed out your lack of ability to prove your point in a intellectual manner.
Along with the classic tactic of trying to attack and degrade.LOL LIBERAL LOGIC !!!!