Baking gear

[maldorf]

I have made lots of tren acetate solutions but have no experience with anything else. My question is, can you bake the finished product (after its been filtered by your whatman) without distroying it? I know trenbalone acetate is ok, but dont know about the others such as test etc. Just worried about sterility. Kian's descriptions have you putting your powder in a vial and then adding oil to it. Unless you treated it, this vial wouldnt be sterile and I might think contaminants might make their way into your mixture while its laying out anyhow. To me the only safe way seems to be to bake the final product at 250 farhenheit.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

Most of the home kits are going to negate the need to bake. Bacteria can't live in that BA. I wouldn't worry about baking up your Tren at all. JMHO

 

[maldorf]

Most of the home kits are going to negate the need to bake. Bacteria can't live in that BA. I wouldn't worry about baking up your Tren at all. JMHO

yeah Im getting that response on other sites where I asked the same question. I alos learned that baking it at 250 degrees wont kill most bacteria when its in oil, only works for water. Would need much higher heat and bake it for like 2-4 hours! Good chance youll ruin the hormone.

 

[Para_Shoot]

If you buy sealed, sterile, empty vials, then you can take the thought of the vial being un-sterile out of the equasion.

 

[anal itch]

I baked tren the first time I made it from pellets. I have yet to bake anything I've made from powders and haven't had a problem. I've used .20 and .45 whatmans without any problems.

 

[maldorf]

I baked tren the first time I made it from pellets. I have yet to bake anything I've made from powders and haven't had a problem. I've used .20 and .45 whatmans without any problems.

Ive never used the .20 filters, are they really slow to filter? So bad that it is painful?

 

[anal itch]

Ive never used the .20 filters, are they really slow to filter? So bad that it is painful?

painfull to the point I started to think it wasn't worth the time! I'm sticking with a .45 for all future batches.

 

[maldorf]

painfull to the point I started to think it wasn't worth the time! I'm sticking with a .45 for all future batches.

yeah, I think I may go that same route, i hear no problems with the .45

 

[Andy13]

Don't bake anything but cookies

 

[rjl296]

ive baked (250-270 for 90 mins) and tested many things
never was the hormone destroyed/damaged

 

[maldorf]

ive baked (250-270 for 90 mins) and tested many things
never was the hormone destroyed/damaged

yeah, me too. Only thing is I read on another board that heating it wont kill the bacteria in oil unless its like 360 degrees or more and for several hours. I would be afraid to bake it that high. The 250 degree for 30 min figure comes from what they do in autoclaves, but autoclaves use high pressure too and this is for a aqueous solution.

 

[rjl296]

thats to sterlize ie kill spores
reg bacteria will die b4 that ie around 270 for hr plus

 

[maldorf]

thats to sterlize ie kill spores
reg bacteria will die b4 that ie around 270 for hr plus

But it seems that most of us havent been doing this at a high enough temperature and for long enough. Most seem to feel the BA does most of the work.

 

[sparetire]

just remember that pathogens will remain at any temperature, which will cause an infection even without bacteria present, so make sure your equipment and environment is as sterile as possible.

 

[maldorf]

just remember that pathogens will remain at any temperature, which will cause an infection even without bacteria present, so make sure your equipment and environment is as sterile as possible.

good point. Thinking it is really important to sterilyze the beaker I will be mixing my solution in, and also the graduated cylinder.

 

[Mythicalbeing]

I feel that baking is a must....but like it was stated...BA will not allow bacteria to live.