Bad Luck With Cycle So Far

[theperfectdrug187]

Here's how my cycle is going, I'm in the middle of my 3rd week:

Week 1-8

Prop 75 mg ed
Tren 50 mg ed
Win 50 mg ed

t3 25 mcg ed
Dostinex .5 mg e3d

So here we go. I had high expectations for this cycle. My diet was in check before I started, I have all my vitamins ready to go... and I had the time to do it right.

About a week ago I had to start taking Femara because the gyno starting acting up... and it seems to have gone downhill from there. I've tapered up to 2.5 mg a day with the femara so I'm feeling like shit, and it seems like every injection site is sore as hell (glutes, quads, delts). Last week I could barely walk because of my left glute, and now my right quad is killing me.

I need some recomendations from you bros, cause I don't want the last 4 weeks of this cycle to be such a pain.

Do I need to stay on the max dose of femara until the gyno is completely gone, or just until it subsides?

I'm using 23g 1" pins for everything, and heating the gear up before injecting, very little aspiration, followed by some good rubbing. Anything else I can do?

I have some test E, would this be good to cut with? how much in each shot?

Thanks bros, I hate to be the one to bitch and moan... but there's not really anyone else I can talk to about it.

 

[02gixxersix]

Don't cut with test e bc the esters are way off. You could cut it with b12 or some sterile oil. I would run the letro until the gyno subsides, and then try running something like aromasin or AIFM; that is if the letro is causing bad sides. Do you know what's causing it? It's probably the prop as you have dostinex and winny in there that should fight possible tren induced gyno.

 

[OMEGA]

stop Tren for about 5 days and load up on Cabergoline at 1 mg eod day

it will clear, then go back to tren at a mere 37.5 mgs a day and continue with Cabergoline at .5 mgs 3 times a week

stop AI you dont need it its all Tren related

 

[OMEGA]

ps cut prop to 50 mgs a day

 

[jaybois]

Here's how my cycle is going, I'm in the middle of my 3rd week:

Week 1-8

Prop 75 mg ed
Tren 50 mg ed
Win 50 mg ed

t3 25 mcg ed
Dostinex .5 mg e3d

So here we go. I had high expectations for this cycle. My diet was in check before I started, I have all my vitamins ready to go... and I had the time to do it right.

About a week ago I had to start taking Femara because the gyno starting acting up... and it seems to have gone downhill from there. I've tapered up to 2.5 mg a day with the femara so I'm feeling like shit, and it seems like every injection site is sore as hell (glutes, quads, delts). Last week I could barely walk because of my left glute, and now my right quad is killing me.

I need some recomendations from you bros, cause I don't want the last 4 weeks of this cycle to be such a pain.

Do I need to stay on the max dose of femara until the gyno is completely gone, or just until it subsides?

I'm using 23g 1" pins for everything, and heating the gear up before injecting, very little aspiration, followed by some good rubbing. Anything else I can do?

I have some test E, would this be good to cut with? how much in each shot?

Thanks bros, I hate to be the one to bitch and moan... but there's not really anyone else I can talk to about it.

Are you sure gyno is a problem? or you being paranoied.how far in did the problem acure?

 

[jaybois]

The only reason i ask is because i've jumped the gun myself a few times.

relating to gyno.

 

[off_safety]

ya man, thats why tren is for big boys. ed inj's w/ prop and tren for 6 weeks, oh man,

i dont miss that cycle! u just have to man up, bro. i rotated glutes, quads, and calves. u

ever shoot prop in ur calf?! it fucking kills, but its better than shooting into the same

swollen glute. i dont know what to tell ya as far as the gyno is concerned, if the

femera isnt working u might just be prone to it(gyno)(test sensitive,

perhaps), and cut down on the doses for a bit. are you positive its gyno?

sensitive nips are completly normal.

 

[theperfectdrug187]

stop Tren for about 5 days and load up on Cabergoline at 1 mg eod day

it will clear, then go back to tren at a mere 37.5 mgs a day and continue with Cabergoline at .5 mgs 3 times a week

stop AI you dont need it its all Tren related

This sounds right up my alley. I'm going down this route starting 5 minutes ago. I'll let you know how it goes Omega, thanks much for the advice.

 

[theperfectdrug187]

Don't cut with test e bc the esters are way off. You could cut it with b12 or some sterile oil. I would run the letro until the gyno subsides, and then try running something like aromasin or AIFM; that is if the letro is causing bad sides. Do you know what's causing it? It's probably the prop as you have dostinex and winny in there that should fight possible tren induced gyno.

I'm going to look at some b12 for cutting, possibly eq... added effect and all.

Are you sure gyno is a problem? or you being paranoied.how far in did the problem acure?

I'm pretty sure it's the tren. I've done other cycles in the past without tren and never had a problem, no AI needed at all. But I love tren and was hoping to be able to work around the sides. I have a test/primo/var cycle planned for this summer... so I may end up cutting this cycle a little short and prepping for my summer cycle.

ya man, thats why tren is for big boys. ed inj's w/ prop and tren for 6 weeks, oh man,

i dont miss that cycle! u just have to man up, bro. i rotated glutes, quads, and calves. u

ever shoot prop in ur calf?! it fucking kills, but its better than shooting into the same

swollen glute. i dont know what to tell ya as far as the gyno is concerned, if the

femera isnt working u might just be prone to it(gyno)(test sensitive,

perhaps), and cut down on the doses for a bit. are you positive its gyno?

sensitive nips are completly normal.

Oh it's gyno... lumps and all. On my list: Cut with B12, more Dostinex, cut the tren out for a few days to get rid of my mammaries. Thanks again guys, I'll let you know how it goes.

ps...flu is going around, get your shots

 

[theperfectdrug187]

Don't cut with test e bc the esters are way off. You could cut it with b12 or some sterile oil. I would run the letro until the gyno subsides, and then try running something like aromasin or AIFM; that is if the letro is causing bad sides. Do you know what's causing it? It's probably the prop as you have dostinex and winny in there that should fight possible tren induced gyno.

Is there a rule of thumb for cutting with b12? How much to mix?

 

[jaybois]

How far in did you get the gyno?

 

[motiondo]

I'm going to look at some b12 for cutting, possibly eq... added effect and all.



I'm pretty sure it's the tren. I've done other cycles in the past without tren and never had a problem, no AI needed at all. But I love tren and was hoping to be able to work around the sides. I have a test/primo/var cycle planned for this summer... so I may end up cutting this cycle a little short and prepping for my summer cycle.[/SIZE]


Oh it's gyno... lumps and all. On my list: Cut with B12, more Dostinex, cut the tren out for a few days to get rid of my mammaries. Thanks again guys, I'll let you know how it goes.

ps...flu is going around, get your shots

^ Bump that up one on the flu issue,,,I just got over a four-day midwesterner blew right through here, knocked me over for a couple of days...watch out guys!

 

[jumpmaster82]

are you pinning the winny or taking it orally?

 

[theperfectdrug187]

How far in did you get the gyno?

I started noticing the gyno sides about a week and a half in. And I was taking .5mg Adex eod, so I know it was a result of the tren. That's why I jumped on the Letro.

 

[theperfectdrug187]

are you pinning the winny or taking it orally?

I'm taking the winny oral... I've never had a problem with winny IM, but this new stuff I'm using jams every syringe I try to draw with. So oral is my only choice.

 

[perryscoon]

Here's how my cycle is going, I'm in the middle of my 3rd week:

Week 1-8

Prop 75 mg ed
Tren 50 mg ed
Win 50 mg ed

t3 25 mcg ed
Dostinex .5 mg e3d

So here we go. I had high expectations for this cycle. My diet was in check before I started, I have all my vitamins ready to go... and I had the time to do it right.

About a week ago I had to start taking Femara because the gyno starting acting up... and it seems to have gone downhill from there. I've tapered up to 2.5 mg a day with the femara so I'm feeling like shit, and it seems like every injection site is sore as hell (glutes, quads, delts). Last week I could barely walk because of my left glute, and now my right quad is killing me.

I need some recomendations from you bros, cause I don't want the last 4 weeks of this cycle to be such a pain.

Do I need to stay on the max dose of femara until the gyno is completely gone, or just until it subsides?

I'm using 23g 1" pins for everything, and heating the gear up before injecting, very little aspiration, followed by some good rubbing. Anything else I can do?

I have some test E, would this be good to cut with? how much in each shot?

Thanks bros, I hate to be the one to bitch and moan... but there's not really anyone else I can talk to about it.

These are all pretty typical sides for tren.

 

[02gixxersix]

Is there a rule of thumb for cutting with b12? How much to mix?

B12 might not be the best since it's ed injects. If you do it ed I would go with maybe 1/2 a cc of b12. It would be better to get some sterile oil and cut it with that. Don't bother with EQ unless you plan on running it for 10 weeks or more. Honestly though if I was you I would just warm up the bottle under some hot water before injecting, and then massage the injection spot for like 10 minutes after the shot or throw a warm compress on it. You could also try baking it in hopes that some of the BA would burn off. Stick a 23g pin in the top of the vial and throw it in the oven on 250 or so for like 15 minutes. I've done that before with some success with prop.

 

[OMEGA]

This sounds right up my alley. I'm going down this route starting 5 minutes ago. I'll let you know how it goes Omega, thanks much for the advice.

it WILL works best bet no sides