Back after 4 years w/ "1st cycle" again...

[pac02007]

Hi guys, my name is Francisco, I used the info on elite fitness forums 4 years ago when I did my first and (so far) only cycle. After that cycle I gave roids a break for many reasons but mainly: 1)they gave me the results I needed back then, 2) Couldn't commit to train as hard as I wanted as I was busy surviving as a last year medical student.

Now, 4 years after, my schedule is less hectic and I've been able to train properly over the last year, but unfortunately I reached a plateau in my gains, and I'm finding extremely difficult to gain LEAN MUSCLE weight. As a physician I understand that it's impossible to gain only muscle, but I think I reached a point in which I might benefit from the roids one more time

My stats:

1 - Age 29
2 - Lifting History: 5 years, training constantly for the last 10 months
3 - Height 5.7f (1.70m)
4 - Weight 160lbs
5 - Estimated BF% (Or at least, lean/think/fat etc...) around 18%
6 - Diet: varies but overall 2500-3000 cal/day. around 200 g of protein, pretty healthy overall, no fried stuff, 3 main meals w/ 2-3 snacks (usually healthy ones)
7 - Goals: gain 10-15 pounds of lean muscle and drop my BF to 10-12%
8 - Proposed cycle:

weeks 1-8 Testosterone Cypionate 400 mg / Deca-Durabolin 200 /Nolvadex 10 mg/day
week 10 Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day
week 11 Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day


Clomid therapy:
Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Day 6 Day 7
Week 1 300 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg
Week 2 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 100 mg 50 mg 50 mg 50 mg

Back in 03 my cyle was somehow similar to this (w/lower doses of testo and w/added winny). Let me know what do you think... and I u have any surgical question I can pay u guys back


Thanks a lot,

FS

 

[solidspine]

Nice cycle

My recommendation would be

Deca 600mg per week 1-12
Test E 600mg per week 1-12


Anti E’s

PCT

 

[levi8599]

if you are looking for lean mass i would run eq instead of deca.

 

[pac02007]

if you are looking for lean mass i would run Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - instead of Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - .

I haven't used equipoise in the past... waht would be the equivalent dose?... and would I need to change the post cycle therapy?

And for solidspine: thanks a lot for the reply bro, don't u think those doses are too high gven the fact is my 2nd cycle? (1st after 4 years)

Thanks guys

 

[holy ghost]

Eh, either or .

 

[levi8599]

I haven't used equipoise in the past... waht would be the equivalent dose?... and would I need to change the post cycle therapy?

And for solidspine: thanks a lot for the reply bro, don't u think those doses are too high gven the fact is my 2nd cycle? (1st after 4 years)

Thanks guys

i grow off of 400mg of eq. i have used both and i liked the eq way better as far as lean mass is. also depends greatly on diet.

 

[Varga]

I'm convinced that d e c a is not the best compound in a short cycle.
Not enough time to for your body to clear androgens before starting PCT. D e c a takes 4-8 weeks to clear your system, and even the fast acting PP will shut you down anyway, that's why many ppl have no clue why their recovery sucks after a quick d e c a cycle

Be smart,
Use other compounds like Dbol/test/primo, perfect for what you want to accomplish
BTW, never use nolva with D e c a or T R E N, use adex, aromasin or letro, dostinex
Peace

 

[pac02007]

so something like this?:

weeks 1-8 Testosterone Cypionate 400 mg / equipoise 400 /Nolvadex 10 mg/day
week 10 Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day
week 11 Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day

 

[holy ghost]

NO

bro why are you trying to stray from whats been proven
EQ NEEDS TO BE RAN FOR MIN 14 WEEKS THIS NEEDS TO BE A STICKY

ill give u an ex of what ive done
1-8 TEST E 1g
1-7 tren a 100mg eod
1-8 masteron 400mg ew
1-8 proviron 50mg ed

 

[advanced-stealth]

I like to do 600mgs of EQ.

 

[Varga]

so something like this?:

weeks 1-8 Testosterone Cypionate 400 mg / equipoise 400 /Nolvadex 10 mg/day
week 10 Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day
week 11 Clomid Therapy Nolvadex/20 mg/Day

That's fine, not my choice but will do.
Do 4 weeks of PCT, not just 2