Awesome UFO clip

[FreakMonster]

Actaully the thread is about UFO's. In that respect I have seen a UFO. I wasn't alone either three of my friends were there as well.

One of my friends concurs with me to the letter. The other is very skeptical of what he thinks he saw. The other hardly remembers anything from the event. This was 9 years ago.

I don't think it was an alien craft. More than likely a working prototype. It had non-conventional propulsion some type of aniti gravity which is a wide range in thoery. It was shaped like an isosceles triangle with very smooth corners. The color was a flat matte balck. There was a panel of lights under the belly of the air craft that was rectangular in shape, yet the lights were shining forward. Its size was immense about the size of a bomber. It hovered past at an estimated 5-10mph. It was so low that is seemed you could climb onto the roof of the house and jump onto the craft. It made no sound, none.

Before the skeptics chime in and call bull shit do your research first. For example there were working prototypes of the F-117 and B2 as far back as the 70's. They were considered classified earlier on than what is officialy known.

http://www.af.mil/news/factsheets/F_117A_Nighthawk.html
http://www.af.mil/news/factsheets/B_2_Spirit.html

Where did you see it at? Was it night or day? How long did you see it for? Why are your friends skeptical in what they saw?

 

[Frackal]

If aliens are so real then why is it that they always show up in remote locations where only a handful of people see it? Has a UFO ever been spotted in a large metropolitan area in broad daylight?

ABSOLUTELY...google is down right now for some reason but later I will find a couple pics hopefully. For example, I have one video of a UFO in russia in broad daylight, with people looking and pointing

 

[Frackal]

BTW Minion....did it look like this?

http://www.geocities.com/djbeirne/triangle.gif


Shit...stupid geocities...I'll try to find the pic elsewhere

 

[Warik]

UFOs appear over remote regions of Earth to avoid panic. A "First Contact" mission takes months, or even years, of planning and research to ensure that a worldwide catastrophe doesn't occur. Why do you think the Vulcans introduced themselves to the humans after the 3rd world war in some forest where the only people around were a bunch of drunks? Imagine if they tried to do that shit in Times Square.

You people just don't think.

-Warik

 

[Imnotdutch]

How many first contacts do we really need?

UFOs appear over remote regions of Earth to avoid panic. A "First Contact" mission takes months, or even years, of planning and research to ensure that a worldwide catastrophe doesn't occur. Why do you think the Vulcans introduced themselves to the humans after the 3rd world war in some forest where the only people around were a bunch of drunks? Imagine if they tried to do that shit in Times Square.

You people just don't think.

-Warik

 

[FreakMonster]

UFOs appear over remote regions of Earth to avoid panic. A "First Contact" mission takes months, or even years, of planning and research to ensure that a worldwide catastrophe doesn't occur. Why do you think the Vulcans introduced themselves to the humans after the 3rd world war in some forest where the only people around were a bunch of drunks? Imagine if they tried to do that shit in Times Square.

You people just don't think.

-Warik

What a bunch of shit!!! If UFO's made first contact on a friendly basis I don't think there would be worldwide panic. What the fuck would I panic for if aliens showed themselves to be real?

 

[Warik]

FreakMonster,

They don't know about our customs or anything like that. What if "hey guys, we are aliens. we come in peace" when translated into English means "watch out mother fuckers!!! we're taking over this place!" What if that doesn't happen and everything goes well, but when the president extends his hand for a handshake the alien ambassador panics because a request for a handshake is how this alien race declares war. See... there are many variables we can't predict. Our technology is too pathetic to venture to alien worlds and study them for ourselves because we are too busy wasting tax dollars to fund holy wars and throw money at poverty-stricken folks who don't give a shit about their own lives.

So, we must wait until these nice aliens are able to carefully plan their first contact and make it successfully. Then they will share their technology with us and we will finally move out of the Dark Ages where people have to spend 10 hours a day doing the back-breaking work that a machine could do in 1/4 the time.

-Warik

 

[Warik]

How many first contacts do we really need?

There hasn't been one yet. Remember that episode of Star Trek when Commander Riker was chilling on this planet where the aliens only had 3 or 4 fingers? He was trying to learn about their culture so that they wouldn't freak out when the Federation peacefully said "hi everyone we are aliens please don't be scared." Instead he had an accident or something and when he was taken to the hospital to be treated everybody freaked out... and that was a society far more civilized than humans (they weren't mindlessly killing each other over stupid shit in a war... hint hint planet Earth.)

-Warik

 

[minion]

Where did you see it at? Was it night or day? How long did you see it for? Why are your friends skeptical in what they saw?

Texas, just outside of Houston city limits.
About 03:30 (am)
The event lasted over 30 minutes.

One of my friends at the time ran into the house and only peeked from around the backdoor. He was seriously worried about being abducted. He was almost to the point of hysteria. I know how that sounds imagine a 20 year old man worrying about such things, right?. In the end the ironic twist is he is now the most skeptical today.

Anyway the three of us left outside all staring at the sky our brains defiantly trying to source a "rational" explanation for an aircraft hovering with NO noise no common propulsion, no jet engines, seemingly floating over head like a low cloud.

In the end we all came to our conclusions. One of the guys standing outside with us in the yard with his jaw dropped like the rest of us simply put it out of his mind. Didn't give it a second thought. Just like that.

Me and the other guy who remembers the exact same thing I do still talk about it when I'm home on leave.

 

[Testosterone boy]

FreakMonster,


So, we must wait until these nice aliens are able to carefully plan their first contact and make it successfully. Then they will share their technology with us and we will finally move out of the Dark Ages where people have to spend 10 hours a day doing the back-breaking work that a machine could do in 1/4 the time.

-Warik

This assumes the aliens have a benevolent nature. I would surmise that a truly advanced species may have no nature at all They may in fact be synthetic drones used for information capture.

What have we done to deserve benevolent aliens coming to our rescue? Have we ever had a positive impact on an ecosystem? Has any native culture ever said, "I'm so glad the ..................discovered us, our lives are so much better now."

There is no reason that the aliens would not be behind a world war. They may well be saying, "Nice planet, we'll take it." By making it look like we destroyed ourselves they could circumvent any accusations of tampering by an intergalactic tribunal. You know, like the Federation.

 

[Taps]

I have a couple points/questions:

1. I doubt aliens would ever “contact” us. What would be the point? Aliens don’t have anything to gain by landing on the White House lawn and saying “Howdy.” We don’t exchange ambassadors and diplomats with wandering tribes in Africa. There’s no direct benefit for us, and they’re not advanced enough to handle that kind of interaction anyway. I imagine aliens would see us in a similar way. Maybe when we perfect space flight, or faster than light travel they’ll introduce themselves…until then why would they bother?

2. They may be technologically advanced, but they still fuck up sometimes. I doubt being captured on film is part of their agenda….or crashing their ships into the desert for that matter.

3. I thought UFO stood for “unidentified flying objects”. In my mind, that’s anything in the air we can’t identify from the ground. If I see a 747 at 30,000 ft, I might as well call it a UFO since there’s no way I can tell it’s a 747 – it could be an F16 for all know. This is just me being anal, so feel free to ignore this point.

Oh, I saw a UFO once. I was 14 and looked out my bedroom window around 6pm. There was this white, glowing disk slowly hovering back and forth along the horizon…maybe half a mile away. I remember thinking, “shit…it’s a flying saucer…not some funky looking ship, but a flying saucer.” Lol Stupid, unoriginal aliens.

Anyway, I don’t know what I believe, but I like to think we’re not alone in the Universe.

 

[Frackal]

Good points taps but as I have been repeating over and over, you cannot make claims or guesstimates as to the intentions or lack thereof of an alien species.

 

[Warik]

This assumes the aliens have a benevolent nature. I would surmise that a truly advanced species may have no nature at all They may in fact be synthetic drones used for information capture.

The synthetic drones had to have come from some intelligent lifeforms. The Borg didn't manifest themselves out of nothing.

I would think that the fact that an armada of alien warships has not yet converged on the planet Earth would suggest that if extraterrestrial life has discovered our homeworld, it is not hostile.

What have we done to deserve benevolent aliens coming to our rescue? Have we ever had a positive impact on an ecosystem? Has any native culture ever said, "I'm so glad the ..................discovered us, our lives are so much better now."

Nothing. Besides, the Prime Directive states that members of the United Federation of Planets are forbidden to interfere with the natural development of primitive civilizations (i.e. humans). We won't see anybody until AT LEAST the time when it takes less than 3 fucking years to send an unmanned probe to Saturn to take pictures.

Think about it in human terms. Take, for example, Europe vs. America circa 1492. Advanced extraamerican life form comes across our planet (country). The inhabitants are not as civilized as the discoverers. What actions are possible now?

1) Leave.
2) Make friends with new people and benefit from it.
3) Begin war and take everything for themselves.

We know that the process was #2 followed by #3. For a highly advanced alien race, however, I don't think they would benefit at all from a friendship with us in our current state. What resources would they get from us that would not be in abundance elsewhere? What sort of technology could we trade with? Of what value would our worthless paper money be to them? Nada.

Wage war and take everything? What's there to take?

So, what's left? Go home and tell the kids to stop by and see if we've learned anything since they last left us.

There is no reason that the aliens would not be behind a world war. They may well be saying, "Nice planet, we'll take it." By making it look like we destroyed ourselves they could circumvent any accusations of tampering by an intergalactic tribunal. You know, like the Federation.

No.. the Federation would not take that shit. Even that spineless bitch Janeway all by herself in the Delta quadrant made Voyager rape the Kazan just because they wanted to pick on the little critters living under the surface of that planet. If you're going to fuck around with a pre-warp society, you'd better hope it's not in Federation/unclaimed space. The Federation is the USA of the alpha quadrant. I think we'll be OK.

-Warik

 

[Warik]

1. I doubt aliens would ever “contact” us. What would be the point? Aliens don’t have anything to gain by landing on the White House lawn and saying “Howdy.” We don’t exchange ambassadors and diplomats with wandering tribes in Africa. There’s no direct benefit for us, and they’re not advanced enough to handle that kind of interaction anyway. I imagine aliens would see us in a similar way. Maybe when we perfect space flight, or faster than light travel they’ll introduce themselves…until then why would they bother?

Right... things only happen out of benefit for the initiating party. There's no point for an alien race to send an ambassador to Earth just like there's no point of sending an ambassador to wandering tribes in Africa. If one of the wandering tribes' gods happened to teach the big chief the secret of power from the heavenly water (i.e. cold fusion) I think we might stop by to say hello.

-Warik

 

[Testosterone boy]

The synthetic drones had to have come from some intelligent lifeforms. The Borg didn't manifest themselves out of nothing.

I would think that the fact that an armada of alien warships has not yet converged on the planet Earth would suggest that if extraterrestrial life has discovered our homeworld, it is not hostile.



Nothing. Besides, the Prime Directive states that members of the United Federation of Planets are forbidden to interfere with the natural development of primitive civilizations (i.e. humans). We won't see anybody until AT LEAST the time when it takes less than 3 fucking years to send an unmanned probe to Saturn to take pictures.

Think about it in human terms. Take, for example, Europe vs. America circa 1492. Advanced extraamerican life form comes across our planet (country). The inhabitants are not as civilized as the discoverers. What actions are possible now?

1) Leave.
2) Make friends with new people and benefit from it.
3) Begin war and take everything for themselves.

We know that the process was #2 followed by #3. For a highly advanced alien race, however, I don't think they would benefit at all from a friendship with us in our current state. What resources would they get from us that would not be in abundance elsewhere? What sort of technology could we trade with? Of what value would our worthless paper money be to them? Nada.

Wage war and take everything? What's there to take?

So, what's left? Go home and tell the kids to stop by and see if we've learned anything since they last left us.



No.. the Federation would not take that shit. Even that spineless bitch Janeway all by herself in the Delta quadrant made Voyager rape the Kazan just because they wanted to pick on the little critters living under the surface of that planet. If you're going to fuck around with a pre-warp society, you'd better hope it's not in Federation/unclaimed space. The Federation is the USA of the alpha quadrant. I think we'll be OK.

-Warik

Well....thank God for the Federation! Nice post BTW. Karma to you.

 

[Taps]

Good points all around, gents.

Here's a wierd thought...what if, in a hundreed years or so, we're the ones to make first contact with an alien race less advanced than us? Think we'd fuck it up or what?

Anyway, here's my theory on the galaxy. There's millions of civilizations out there, many of them flying around space doing basically what we do on earth but only on a much larger scale -- trading goods, buying real estate, working dead end jobs, going sightseeing, fighting wars, chasing pussy, etc. There's probably a few alien sociologists/scientists aware of a little plannet called "Earth", but it don't have any strategic value and it's resources can be found on other worlds. Once we get our act together and stop killing each other over things like religion...and maybe start exploring our own region of space, the other civilizations will take notice and introduce themselves.

Like Captain Picard said to a culture that had just discovered warp-drive: "Better that we meet here on friendly terms then randomly out in space."

 

[Frackal]

Wanted to note:

Coincidentally saw a program tonight that stated that the SDI (strategic defense initiative, aka star wars) was said to use particle beams as well as Railguns.

 

[minion]

http://www.iat.utexas.edu/electrodyn.html

http://www.eng.auburn.edu/department/ece/railgun/

 

[Warik]

Here's a wierd thought...what if, in a hundreed years or so, we're the ones to make first contact with an alien race less advanced than us? Think we'd fuck it up or what?

Hell yeah we would. Why do you think Q was prosecuting the senior bridge crew for the crimes of humanity in episode 1? All humans do is destroy shit they don't understand. Oh no Israel and Palestine are having a little fight... let's go stick our noses in and kill some of them in the process. Oh no Japan is being mean... let's kill a hundred thousand innocent civilians... Oh no this... oh no that... goddamn I don't think there is a country in existence that has done ANYTHING useful outside its own borders.

Like Captain Picard said to a culture that had just discovered warp-drive: "Better that we meet here on friendly terms then randomly out in space."

Yeah... I think that's how the Klingon war started or something. Some human probably did some stupid shit and got the Klingon captain all mad.

They need to make a new Star Trek series with the Next Generation crew. I heard the new Enterprise series sucks.

-Warik

 

[Frackal]

Next generation was the best series

 

[Testosterone boy]

War has been necessary as a means of population control. You think the planet is overcrowded now?

I'm sure some countries citizens did better after foreigners discovered them, the sheer mathematical odds favor it. The Europeans discovered spices and silk in China and did trade without subjugation.

If we discovered a less developed world with resources we needed, they would be toast and we would say they started it. Humans suck.

it is quite likely that all of the planets would have somewhat similar resources if you subscribe to the Big Bang Theory which makes as much sense as any other.

Minion....those rail gun pics suck.

 

[DigitalKyle]

Wanted to note:

Coincidentally saw a program tonight that stated that the SDI (strategic defense initiative, aka star wars) was said to use particle beams as well as Railguns.

Taken is a good series so far isn't it...

 

[Frackal]

Excellent series!