Avoiding water retention on Dbol

[superturkey]

Dbol is one oral I have stayed away from because it carries a strong aromatizing nature.

But i'm also a fiend for strength which is why dbol is of interest to me.

Can one run a dose on dbol and a fairly substantial dose of aromasin to get the benefits of dbol without the bloat?

I would like to incorporate it into my next cycle as a kicker. But bloat and rapid size gain are not of any interest to me.

Yes I have run Tbol and found it quite mild.


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[Reps For Jesus]

keep sodium intake low
drink more water
stack with proviron
run aromasin ED

 

[superturkey]

keep sodium intake low
drink more water
stack with proviron
run aromasin ED

And will this reduce all or just some of the bloat?

I guess it's probably different for everybody, but those are your best steps to reduce bloat as much as possible.


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[Jbranken]

keep sodium intake low
drink more water
stack with proviron
run aromasin ED

This is all I can think of. Depends on how much test you're running too. The cleaner you eat, the less you'll bloat. The leaner you are, the less you'll bloat.

 

[Lou Super Man 123]

Dbol is one oral I have stayed away from because it carries a strong aromatizing nature.
But i'm also a fiend for strength which is why dbol is of interest to me.
Can one run a dose on dbol and a fairly substantial dose of aromasin to get the benefits of dbol without the bloat?
I would like to incorporate it into my next cycle as a kicker. But bloat and rapid size gain are not of any interest to me.

You will get the bloat if you use Dbol wrong, if you use it right there is no bloat and that is below 10 mg a day.

Instead of thinking how to fix with drugs what you will do wrong you should be thinking how to do it right since the first day.

 

[ALIN]

keep sodium intake low
drink more water
stack with proviron
run aromasin ED

Solid tips,,,good advice.

 

[dylangemelli]

your not going to completely avoid water and bloating with dbol... you can keep it lower than some do but to ask if you can completely avoid it... that will not happen... running aromasin ed, proviron, a lot of cardio and sauna will all help... i would definitely stack gw with it as well...

 

[bonacris]

Running a reasonable dose for test
is the biggest factor for me.. I've run dbol up to 50mg with low dose test and bloat was minimal

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[superturkey]

You will get the bloat if you use Dbol wrong, if you use it right there is no bloat and that is below 10 mg a day.

Instead of thinking how to fix with drugs what you will do wrong you should be thinking how to do it right since the first day.

From what I'v read the minimum dose of Dbol is 20mg, with the majority of users dosing 50mg with a max of 100mg.

So 10mg would be pointless, but yes you would avoid the bloat and the gains!


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[hurricane]

honestly you can manipulate water retention on dbol but its tricky and there is a good chance,although you will cut it, you will still hold some.If you dont want water rentention, the best idea is to use short esters and orals that dont cause water retention, if that is the look you seek.

 

[Lou Super Man 123]

From what I'v read the minimum dose of Dbol is 20mg, with the majority of users dosing 50mg with a max of 100mg.

Yeah and I have read that you need more than 200 gr of protein a day to build muscle, that cardio burns muscle, that you need to bulk and cut to get big, that when you cut you lose muscle, that you have to eat every 3 hours to gain muscle, that you have to gain fat to gain muscle, that you don't absorb more than 30 gr of protein per meal, that you need more to 48 hours to repair a muscle, that you can't train more than 1 hour, that you can't lose fat and gain muscle at the same time, etc etc etc.

So 10mg would be pointless, but yes you would avoid the bloat and the gains!

Prove it.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

10 mg of D-Bol would give you some gains, but I think 20-30 mg a day is more of an ideal dosage. I don't think you would become a bloated mess by any means.

 

[superturkey]

Running a reasonable dose for test
is the biggest factor for me.. I've run dbol up to 50mg with low dose test and bloat was minimal

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Yes good point, avoid high doses of two strong aromitizing steroids.





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[superturkey]

Yeah and I have read that you need more than 200 gr of protein a day to build muscle, that cardio burns muscle, that you need to bulk and cut to get big, that when you cut you lose muscle, that you have to eat every 3 hours to gain muscle, that you have to gain fat to gain muscle, that you don't absorb more than 30 gr of protein per meal, that you need more to 48 hours to repair a muscle, that you can't train more than 1 hour, that you can't lose fat and gain muscle at the same time, etc etc etc.



Prove it.

I cannot PROVE it, but I can do research which suggests you are wrong.

In order to kick start a Dianabol cycle, usually what you do is incorporate a fast acting oral like Dianabol (or anadrol) and combine it with long acting injectables (such as Deca or Eq with some Testosterone). The reasoning here is that the oral (Dbol in this case) will give almost immediate results, while the injectable takes time to produce results. The end result is that you start seeing results within the first week of your cycle and continue up until the end with the injectables. This entails taking anywhere from 25-50mgs of dbol (although as little as 20mgs or as much as 100mgs have been reported) for 3-6 weeks at the start of a cycle (average time for a "Kick Start" is 4 weeks, though), and then ceasing their use as the injectables start to produce results.

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The dosage range for Dianabol is typically 20-50 mg/day. Unlike most injectables, little further benefit occurs from going beyond this milligram amount. If wishing more effect, the answer is instead to add another anabolic steroid. My preference is for dosing to be 3-5 times per day, but some prefer to use it only once per day.

-Bill Roberts

If you've never supplemented with a particular anabolic steroid before, it's always best to keep the dose rather low your first go around in-order to ensure you do not run into trouble. You need to find out how you respond to a particular steroid, and in this case, if your Dbol dosage is too high and you run into problems you're only going to bring extra and unneeded stress onto your body. With this in mind, 10mg per day will provide androgen replacement, but for a true anabolic effect you're going to need a Dbol dosage of 20mg per day. This is a perfect dose for a newbie; 25mg per day can be considered, but you really shouldn't exceed this point. Further, while it may be low, such a dose is guaranteed to see your mass and strength increase significantly if you provide adequate calories; it may be low, but it's far from weak. Moreover, for many it may be all the Dianabol they ever need or desire, and if that's the case, such a Dbol dosage will provide the gains you desire each and every time.

-Dbol.com


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[Jbranken]

Yeah and I have read that you need more than 200 gr of protein a day to build muscle, that cardio burns muscle, that you need to bulk and cut to get big, that when you cut you lose muscle, that you have to eat every 3 hours to gain muscle, that you have to gain fat to gain muscle, that you don't absorb more than 30 gr of protein per meal, that you need more to 48 hours to repair a muscle, that you can't train more than 1 hour, that you can't lose fat and gain muscle at the same time, etc etc etc.



Prove it.

We get it, there's a lot of broscience regarding bodybuilding out there. But, every person is different and some of the things you mentioned are in fact true for some people. Are you implying that there's some sort of cookie cutter formula that works for all of us or suggesting that our genetic makeups are all the same?

As far as dbol goes, it does bloat most guys because it aromatizes. Why do you keep telling people it doesn't when you've never used this steroid? Not trying to be a dick at all, I'm just confused. Experienced cyclers in this thread are saying it clearly bloats, but you refuse to believe it. Why?

 

[superturkey]

Although this thread has taken a strange turn, I am happy to integrate Dbol into my next cycle, taking a lower dose of test and daily Aromasin into consideration.
Ramping Dbol from 20mg to a level I am satisfied with.

Thanks for the help


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[Nelson Montana]

Take less.

 

[Mh48500]

Although this thread has taken a strange turn, I am happy to integrate Dbol into my next cycle, taking a lower dose of test and daily Aromasin into consideration.
Ramping Dbol from 20mg to a level I am satisfied with.

Thanks for the help


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Good decision. You need to take into consideration that everyone reacts different to every compound, and until you run it you cant be sure of the exact reaction.

Before my 1st Dbol run I was sure I would blow up like a ballon, moon face, etc..no it didnt happen. I began with 50mgs a day and needed to drop it to 25 for other reasons(appetite), a retained an incredibly minimal amount of water. I didnt even look soft, it made me look very full.

You need to be prepared obviously if you do react that way, but that doesnt mean you might react extremely well.

 

[superturkey]

Good decision. You need to take into consideration that everyone reacts different to every compound, and until you run it you cant be sure of the exact reaction.

Before my 1st Dbol run I was sure I would blow up like a ballon, moon face, etc..no it didnt happen. I began with 50mgs a day and needed to drop it to 25 for other reasons(appetite), a retained an incredibly minimal amount of water. I didnt even look soft, it made me look very full.

You need to be prepared obviously if you do react that way, but that doesnt mean you might react extremely well.

This is way I hope to react, I have heard of guys popping dbol like TicTacs and ripped as hell still.
All the strength, size and minimal bloat is how I hope it goes.


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[Jbranken]

This is way I hope to react, I have heard of guys popping dbol like TicTacs and ripped as hell still.
All the strength, size and minimal bloat is how I hope it goes.


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Hopefully it works out for you. It has a lot to do with your body type and conditioning prior to using dbol as well. If you're already ripped, dbol will certainly make you look fuller without the bloated look

 

[rustilldown]

I only used dbol once , and It got to the point where I couldn't even walk to the grocery store without crippling back and calf pumps. I didn't enjoy it at all at even 30mgs.. Now that being said, i was a rookie in the game and I probably could have done it better, but I prefer the harder leaner look anyhow. Legit anavar = greater look and feel to me. And people underestimate the strength anavar can give at a respectable dose.

 

[Lou Super Man 123]

Take less.

I better start adopting your style Mr. Montana because at the end of the day deaf people are...Deaf people.

 

[bonacris]

I find that most people who use dbol are usually 1st timers who are in no shape to be starting AAS so when they bloat up like a fish and lose everything after the cycle the claim it does nothing and just adds water..

I know this because I was one of those guys. Now I'm more experienced, my diet is better and my training is much better so dbol is beautiful when run properly

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[Lou Super Man 123]

I find that most people who use dbol are usually 1st timers who are in no shape to be starting AAS so when they bloat up like a fish and lose everything after the cycle the claim it does nothing and just adds water..

You couldn't say it better my man, this is just scary, some dudes use steroids as an excuse for abusing on junk food when anabolics, from my point of view, demand the cleanest diet ever, especially Dbol, you just cannot afford abusing on Sodium.

dbol is beautiful when run properly

Best sentence ever