Avoid bloat while on test?

[FlexManning]

I bloated like fucking crazy when I ran a gram of test and used just nolva with it. I'm using l-dex at .5mg ed right now and my face is still chiseled. I was lean when I started and have only put on about 5-7 pounds (I am pre-contest), I am definitely not rocking a bloated face.

Yeah, and like I was alluding to I did a gram + of test and bloated so badly people were noticing my eyes were swollen, then just added 1mg/day of a-dex and boom, some bloat may be there but there's a big difference between a little bloat and Chinese eyes on a caucasian.

A poster was alluding to there being no such thing as no bloat. Sure that's technically true in most cases, after all even a-dex only reduces aromatizaion by about 80%. But then again a-dex is effective enough that for some that will add up to almost no bloat. Also, since deca reduces natural test while aromatizing to mostly weak estrogens, the fact is that deca itself could on paper reduce bloat in an already puffy person if used in small dosages.

 

[silverbackn]

Flex, I totally agree. There is no such thing as no bloat. There is no such thing as 100% estrogen suppression. I saw a picture from when I was running a gram of test with just nolva, I look fucking horrible. I look like something from a Thanksgiving day parade. I will never go that route again. A little bloat I can deal with, when other people start commenting it's too much.

 

[Dial_tone]

I don't believe you have to elminate to keep bloat to non-noticeable levels. I went up to 750mg test for a maybe 4-6 weeks with 50 proviron and 40-60mg nolvadex and I looked fine. Neither my roommate or coworkers said a thing.

 

[silverbackn]

Dialtone, I agree with what you're saying about not having to completely halt estrogen to keep bloat to a minimal level. I think some people are just more sensitive to estrogen, something people often overlook is that they put on considerable bodyfat while their estrogen levels are elevated. It's not all just water.

 

[The Terminator]

Bro, no offense but why in the world would deca bloat your face up significantly? It barely even aromatizes and when it does it mostly aromatizes into very weak estrogens. I know many drugs interact with prolactin and progesterone in ways that are poorly understood (like Anadrol) but deca has been known for decades to be very gentle in a variety of ways, and some say it is the gentlest of all steroids per pound of muscle gained.

Barely armoztizes ? I think THAT is where your theory is flawed...

I think the problem with Deca is that most of its aromatization is NOT into estrogen. Therefore it is much harder to control the aromatization with just using AI's...(as they are not that effective for conversioon into progesterone...if "effective" at all )

For me Deca has been THE WORST Anabolic drug I have ever used (as far as the benefits to negative side effect ratio goes...)

 

[PussyWhipped]

deca (actually NPP) bloats up my face also.

when on hi test, if I stick with low carbs, I can usually avoid the helium head even without arimidex. with NPP, no matter what, after 3 or 4 weeks I bloat up.