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Bruce Lee -
Well , to put it Lightly he was a Martial Arts Joke .
He NEVER Fought any Trained fighter exept one (Wong Jack Man) , and the ONLY Witness that dosent currently make $ off of selling Bruce Lees name says he lost .
He moved like a Karateka - Stiff , and Hard , but he talked about being "Fluid"
.
He broke the Principles of Wing Chun, and He would go about trying to discredit things that he didn’t fully Comprehend with the most Adolescent of "Logic”.
He took the Ideas of Sports systems (Fencing & Boxing) over Combat ones, and got his "Training" in those systems from one Manual, and one Article in Sports Illustrated.
He knew NEXT TO NOTHING of the Principles of Fighting, and yet he went on and on about what was and was not "Necessary” - Simply because YOU are too inexperienced to know why a thing is needed does NOT mean that it’s not needed. It means that you lack Combat Experience enough to comprehend its import.
He also Yammered ON & ON about "Going Beyond Form" when every first Year Student knows that that’s WHY you study, to get BEYOND the Form, and get the skills into your BONES.
Anything that HE didn’t Comprehend, he condemned. It would have been FAR easier to just ASK someone that knew better, but that would have been Beyond what his Ego would allow.
He stole every saying that he was famous for "Coming Up With" ... he only "Came Up With" then from his College Textbooks.
He was a Philosophy Major in College, and he basically just Sat about in Interviews, Misquoting REAL Thinkers into little Fortune-Cookie Soundbites, when most often he didn’t even Understand the INTENT of the Original Thinker when they SAID what he was Ripping off.
He was lauded for "Great Feats Of Strength" when he just did a couple of Parlor Tricks that aren’t really that Impressive, and he was Underweight for a Male of his Height. Most Women that are fitness Hobbyists (Housewives and High school Females) Have Stronger Lower Bodies than Lee did. His Cardio was that of the Average couch Potato.
Oh, and I don’t know anybody that’s in Half Decent Shape at Bruce Lees Weight that cant do Fingertip Pushups that wants to.
He never got in any but 2 fights after the Schoolyard crap that everyone gets into. He lost that one fight according to the only Witness to it that was Neutral.
Now Bruce Lee Fans will eventually Try to eek these (Less than 5) encounters into him being some kind of "Fighter" but the one guy that he fought was a Cook with VERY little Training at the time, and HE Handled Bruce like a Child.
The only other time that he was know to Match up with someone was a Student of Master Gin Foon Mark, who had about 11 mos Training at the time, and Bruce couldn’t gain any advantage over him, even tho he had 20 Mos of WC, and he had been "Practicing At Home”. Wing Chun and Mantis Players should be EVEN at about 1 year, so that means that bruce must have LOST something with his little WC Ideas, because they seem to have Undone the last 8 months (or the Equivalent) that he was Trained.
People have said and done MANY things in Bruce’s Name that are just Untrue
.
Linda saying that Bruce was told not to Teach NON-CHINESE was one of these things . She Created an issue of Racism where one was Unneeded , and made people think that Racism in the Chinese Community were all Bigots , in the Effort to make Bruce look like some "Hero" for "Fighting the Power" and "Fighting Racism" . I know Whites , AND BLACKS - In America AND China , that were being taught WAY before Bruce was around by the Chinese , as my Father was one of them .
I feel that in the stead of making Bruce look good , this has served to feed the Racism , and make ppl; think that Chinese are Racists on some sort of Broad Scale .
That’s SO Unfair .
Personal :
Many ppl complain because he was a Drug Abuser , Steroid User , and Adulterer , but I don’t consider this to be Martially Related , so I couldn’t possibly care less , as it’s NOT really Martially Related .
Bruce’s (Legitimate) Training under Qualified Instruction :
In writing about this period in Lee's life, Jesse Glover (his first American student) stated, "Wong was four years senior (in training) to Bruce in Yip Man's clan and Bruce studied privately for a year and a half under both him and Yip Man."
http://www.cebridge.com.au/Ipman/Sifus/Wong Shun Leung.htm
2) Bruce’s level of "Physical Fitness" :
http://www.myodynamics.com/articles/bruce.html
3) Master Gin Foon Mark lets Bruce Square Off with one of his FIRST-YEAR Students , whom Bruce cant beat :
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/martyeisen/mantis/Lee.htm?mtbrand=AOL_US
4) Bruce’s fight with Wong Jack Man . The Reporter knows NOTHING about the Martial Arts , so he thinks that Bruce was a Master (As MUST Wong be , because he won) but the Facts of the Account are Investigated . oh , it also tells how Bruce ducked out of a Rematch later in PUBLIC to save his (acting)Career :
http://www.lakungfu.com/sifujackmanwong.html
sorry if any of this is Muddled - I should be Sleeping . If anything is ask and Ill Clarify later .
Well , to put it Lightly he was a Martial Arts Joke .
He NEVER Fought any Trained fighter exept one (Wong Jack Man) , and the ONLY Witness that dosent currently make $ off of selling Bruce Lees name says he lost .
He moved like a Karateka - Stiff , and Hard , but he talked about being "Fluid"
.
He broke the Principles of Wing Chun, and He would go about trying to discredit things that he didn’t fully Comprehend with the most Adolescent of "Logic”.
He took the Ideas of Sports systems (Fencing & Boxing) over Combat ones, and got his "Training" in those systems from one Manual, and one Article in Sports Illustrated.
He knew NEXT TO NOTHING of the Principles of Fighting, and yet he went on and on about what was and was not "Necessary” - Simply because YOU are too inexperienced to know why a thing is needed does NOT mean that it’s not needed. It means that you lack Combat Experience enough to comprehend its import.
He also Yammered ON & ON about "Going Beyond Form" when every first Year Student knows that that’s WHY you study, to get BEYOND the Form, and get the skills into your BONES.
Anything that HE didn’t Comprehend, he condemned. It would have been FAR easier to just ASK someone that knew better, but that would have been Beyond what his Ego would allow.
He stole every saying that he was famous for "Coming Up With" ... he only "Came Up With" then from his College Textbooks.
He was a Philosophy Major in College, and he basically just Sat about in Interviews, Misquoting REAL Thinkers into little Fortune-Cookie Soundbites, when most often he didn’t even Understand the INTENT of the Original Thinker when they SAID what he was Ripping off.
He was lauded for "Great Feats Of Strength" when he just did a couple of Parlor Tricks that aren’t really that Impressive, and he was Underweight for a Male of his Height. Most Women that are fitness Hobbyists (Housewives and High school Females) Have Stronger Lower Bodies than Lee did. His Cardio was that of the Average couch Potato.
Oh, and I don’t know anybody that’s in Half Decent Shape at Bruce Lees Weight that cant do Fingertip Pushups that wants to.
He never got in any but 2 fights after the Schoolyard crap that everyone gets into. He lost that one fight according to the only Witness to it that was Neutral.
Now Bruce Lee Fans will eventually Try to eek these (Less than 5) encounters into him being some kind of "Fighter" but the one guy that he fought was a Cook with VERY little Training at the time, and HE Handled Bruce like a Child.
The only other time that he was know to Match up with someone was a Student of Master Gin Foon Mark, who had about 11 mos Training at the time, and Bruce couldn’t gain any advantage over him, even tho he had 20 Mos of WC, and he had been "Practicing At Home”. Wing Chun and Mantis Players should be EVEN at about 1 year, so that means that bruce must have LOST something with his little WC Ideas, because they seem to have Undone the last 8 months (or the Equivalent) that he was Trained.
People have said and done MANY things in Bruce’s Name that are just Untrue
.
Linda saying that Bruce was told not to Teach NON-CHINESE was one of these things . She Created an issue of Racism where one was Unneeded , and made people think that Racism in the Chinese Community were all Bigots , in the Effort to make Bruce look like some "Hero" for "Fighting the Power" and "Fighting Racism" . I know Whites , AND BLACKS - In America AND China , that were being taught WAY before Bruce was around by the Chinese , as my Father was one of them .
I feel that in the stead of making Bruce look good , this has served to feed the Racism , and make ppl; think that Chinese are Racists on some sort of Broad Scale .
That’s SO Unfair .
Personal :
Many ppl complain because he was a Drug Abuser , Steroid User , and Adulterer , but I don’t consider this to be Martially Related , so I couldn’t possibly care less , as it’s NOT really Martially Related .
Bruce’s (Legitimate) Training under Qualified Instruction :
In writing about this period in Lee's life, Jesse Glover (his first American student) stated, "Wong was four years senior (in training) to Bruce in Yip Man's clan and Bruce studied privately for a year and a half under both him and Yip Man."
http://www.cebridge.com.au/Ipman/Sifus/Wong Shun Leung.htm
2) Bruce’s level of "Physical Fitness" :
http://www.myodynamics.com/articles/bruce.html
3) Master Gin Foon Mark lets Bruce Square Off with one of his FIRST-YEAR Students , whom Bruce cant beat :
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/martyeisen/mantis/Lee.htm?mtbrand=AOL_US
4) Bruce’s fight with Wong Jack Man . The Reporter knows NOTHING about the Martial Arts , so he thinks that Bruce was a Master (As MUST Wong be , because he won) but the Facts of the Account are Investigated . oh , it also tells how Bruce ducked out of a Rematch later in PUBLIC to save his (acting)Career :
http://www.lakungfu.com/sifujackmanwong.html
sorry if any of this is Muddled - I should be Sleeping . If anything is ask and Ill Clarify later .
