let me
tell you something, gear is alot more rampant than you could believe and WE ALL USE CREATINE!!!!!!!
I bet at least 50 people have heard(from at least a couple people) how "huge" i have gotten and I bet all 50 that were told I'm all natural and use creatine. I hate when people swear other people are natural(even though its good for me). You don't know what anybody is doing.
Hell you see college football players on here asking about cycles.
Do they abuse like bodybuilders, hell no. And some of the lineman really dont have to. When you hold alot of fat(15%>) its easy to maintain muscle, the body just hates holding alot of muscle without alot of fat.