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ASs while on CKD

madhacker

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What are the pros/cons od doing ASs while on the CKD? Do you need to change the diet? Change the training? I was thinking of the following 10 week cycle:

Weeks 1-10: 250mg/wk Ethanate
Weeks 1-10: 400mg/wk Deca
Weeks 1-10: 50mg/eod Winny (oraly, solution)
Weeks 1-10: 1.25mg/eod Ferma

Which would be better, Deca or EQ?

Thanks
MaDhAcKeR
 
madhacker said:
What are the pros/cons od doing ASs while on the CKD? Do you need to change the diet? Change the training? I was thinking of the following 10 week cycle:

Weeks 1-10: 250mg/wk Ethanate
Weeks 1-10: 400mg/wk Deca
Weeks 1-10: 50mg/eod Winny (oraly, solution)
Weeks 1-10: 1.25mg/eod Ferma

Which would be better, Deca or EQ?

Thanks
MaDhAcKeR

Well, it all DEPENDS on what your goals are. In reality, the AS will help preserve muscle tissue while in Ketosis, and most like will increase anabolism during a carb-up. But, for gaining muscle mass, I think you would be better off w/ a high protein/mod. carb diet.
One thing you could try is this:
3 days in Ketosis/1 day carb up
you would either use insulin or R-ALA during and after the carb-up to be in Ketosis the next morning
I would say that would be a MUCH better choice then doing the convensional CKD 5 days ketosis/2 day carb up.

On another note, EQ is better then DECA, that's a given. EQ has a better ability in increasing protein synthesis then DECA. Plus, well a personal belief, DECA SUCKS! Ferma is not a good anti-estrogen because of it's downregulation of the aromatase enzyme for a while after it's discontinued. This is a cycle I would recommend:
1-10: test prop 100mg EOD
1-10: fina 75mg EOD
1-10: winny 50mg ED
1-12: armidex 0.5 mg ED

Mr.X
 
Thanks Mr. X. For the "3 days in Ketosis/1 day carb up", what would you reccomend for Fat/protien/carb ratios/

Thanks
Mad
 
madhacker said:
Thanks Mr. X. For the "3 days in Ketosis/1 day carb up", what would you reccomend for Fat/protien/carb ratios/

Thanks
Mad

Read my CKD manual: it's a STICKY on top of this page...\
Use the manula ratios: I think the first day is something like 80% fat/20% protein...etc

Just make sure if you use slin you know what you're doing, it can be deadly. On the other hand R-ALA can be quiet easy to work with.

Mr.X
 
Re: Re: ASs while on CKD

Mr.X said:


Well, it all DEPENDS on what your goals are. In reality, the AS will help preserve muscle tissue while in Ketosis, and most like will increase anabolism during a carb-up. But, for gaining muscle mass, I think you would be better off w/ a high protein/mod. carb diet.
One thing you could try is this:
3 days in Ketosis/1 day carb up
you would either use insulin or R-ALA during and after the carb-up to be in Ketosis the next morning
I would say that would be a MUCH better choice then doing the convensional CKD 5 days ketosis/2 day carb up.

On another note, EQ is better then DECA, that's a given. EQ has a better ability in increasing protein synthesis then DECA. Plus, well a personal belief, DECA SUCKS! Ferma is not a good anti-estrogen because of it's downregulation of the aromatase enzyme for a while after it's discontinued. This is a cycle I would recommend:
1-10: test prop 100mg EOD
1-10: fina 75mg EOD
1-10: winny 50mg ED
1-12: armidex 0.5 mg ED

Mr.X

wouldnt this downregulation be a good thing?
 
Re: Re: Re: ASs while on CKD

_jaap_ said:


wouldnt this downregulation be a good thing?

I meant upregulation, not downregulation. Meaning it works at a much faster rate, producing more estrogen as a result.

Mr.X
 
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