aspartame toxicity

[cockdezl]

Good Post 'Sigmund Roid', it's a shame some people still won't believe the harmful effects of asparteme. Below is a link to articles supporting the ill-effects of aspartame. The link comes from Dr. Mercola's site, who I might add, is a very reputeable doctor and the site is full of healthy information. There's alot that one can learn here, from a Doctor who's not being bought off by the drug companies. I have changed many of my eating habits based on Dr. Mercola's information and am feeling much healthier these days. If people don't want to "work" at being healthy and want to listen to the "All Knowing Govt" - fine, suit yourself. http://www.mercola.com/article/aspartame/

Yes, Dr. Mercola is a very reputable source. Check this nugget of information:

Aspartame Dosing of the Military in the Gulf War
During the 1991 Gulf War, all military personnel were provided free supplies of aspartame-laced soft drinks together with experimental vaccines, nerve gas antidotes and personal insecticides. They were also treated to direct biochemical warfare compounds. The result is Gulf War Syndrome, which is communicable and deadly, and 50,000 military personnel and their dependents are wasting away before our eyes. Criminal negligence? Of course. Criminal conspiracy? Yes. Genocide? Probably - we’re waiting to see.

Note the word 'communicable', which means 'transmittable'. How in the hell is aspartame toxicity transmittable???

Also, here is some amazing references that Dr. Mercola uses:

Aspartame is made up of three chemicals: Aspartic acid, phenylalanine, and methanol. The book, Prescription for Nutritional Healing, by James and Phyllis Balch, lists aspartame under the category of "chemical poison." As you shall see, that is exactly what it is.

The Balchs' book referenced above is replete with false information and questionable advice. He probable also references Dr. Julian Whitaker, another hack physician.

 

[circusgirl]

The aspartame thing is an urban legend. www.urbanlegends.com...

 

[TraxZBT]

This is not new, this is old internet garbage. Martini and Gold have been peddling this pseudo-scientific shit for years. They originally worked on many of the Deja newsgroups, like sci.med.nutrition and misc.health.alternative, but they were constantly destroyed by people who had an inkling of scientific background.

Look at this article, do they use any scientific references to support their claims? Look at the list of side effects. Fricken arsenic doesn't have the numbers of symptoms that they claim for aspartame.

Hmm your right, they don't use any references at all. I'm still pretty shaken up at the fact that equal packets have warnings on them though. But these days, everything causes cancer so I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

 

[anthrax]

The aspartame thing is an urban legend. www.urbanlegends.com...

exactly !

there is neither methanol, nor brain cancer

If it were true there would be millions of death around the world

 

[cockdezl]

exactly !

there is neither methanol, nor brain cancer

If it were true there would be millions of death around the world

Methanol CAN BE liberated from aspartame, but the quantities are small enough that the human body can handle it. Martini and Gold have jumped on the fact of methanol's presence, the fact that it is a toxin, but conveniently disregarded the fact that the human body CAN deal with small amounts of various poisons.

They have no understanding of a tenet of pharmacology/toxicology, "a poison is defined by the dose".

 

[anthrax]

the Swiss physician Paracelus set forth one of the basic tenets of modern toxicology when he wrote:

"What is it that is not poison? All things are poison and nothing is without poison.
It is the dose only that makes a thing not a poison."

 

[Big Arnold]

Well, I'm not hear to twist anyone's arm one way or another. But I standby my personal research that Aspartame is BAD. Those who want to continue to use it, certainly can, - Happy Aspartame drinking!(not Sarcasm, just alittle humor) However, the FDA has been known more than once to not be truthful in dealing with the American people about health issues. Yes, you can go on the internet and find all kinds of information telling you that Aspartame is perfectly safe and the FDA not only approved it but also re-evaluted it in the past and they keep telling us it's fine. As for Good and Bad science claims, well, below is a link to a website full of many "Independent Sources" that have studied Aspartame and have conclude that 'Monsanto' and the FDA ARE NOT WORKING IN OUR BEST INTEREST! I will not spend the time to go through each and everyone of them but I'm just trying to get across to some people that there is Good Science out there that shows Aspartame is not something to be takenly lightly, in regards to your health. If people still want to ignore this that's okay with me, like I said above "I'm not hear to twist anyone's arm" At my age (44) I have learned much about "trusting" our Govt. with my health.........Don't!
P.S. Not trying to Piss-Off anyone, just trying to keep people Open-Minded, thank you.
http://aspartametruth.com/57reports.html

 

[Sigmund Roid]

Mmmmm, the opinions on this subject seem to be widely spread.
Thanks for the replies, guys and girls.

Cockdezl, you said:

>>>Methanol CAN BE liberated from aspartame, but the quantities are small enough that the human body can handle it. Martini and Gold have jumped on the fact of methanol's presence, the fact that it is a toxin, but conveniently disregarded the fact that the human body CAN deal with small amounts of various poisons.

>>>They have no understanding of a tenet of pharmacology/toxicology, "a poison is defined by the dose".

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However, the toxicity of methanol is eliminated by ethanol, which is the main constituent of Martini and Gold. Even by MD's, methanol poisoning is treated by alcohol.


Big Arnold:

>>>At my age (44) I have learned much about "trusting" our Govt. with my health.........Don't!

I am 13 years younger, but I agree totally with you. The Govt. priority is filling their empty pockets caused by their poor policy making and money wasting.

Just look at stevia, a wonderful sweetener, no apparant toxicity, and in all aspects it seems much safer than aspartame and related compounds. And now it is forbidden here.


Anthrax:

>>>the Swiss physician Paracelus set forth one of the basic tenets of modern toxicology when he wrote:

>>>"What is it that is not poison? All things are poison and nothing is without poison.
It is the dose only that makes a thing not a poison."

True, but who knows how much aspartame is in our protein powders. It doesn't say on any of them!!!!

 

[freediver]

My experience

Forget scientific or FDA studies. I avoid artificial sweeteners because they make me feel horrible. Here is an example. I ordered 'Supreme Whey' from Peak Nutrition. It listed only fructose as the sweetener on the website. I received my 8lb bucket, and again, only fructose was listed. I tried some. First of all it tasted odd (artificial sweeteners taste a bit different from sugar). About 15 minutes later, I started getting a headache, which has happened before after eating such sweeteners. I contacted the company and after several days of arguing they finally admitted that the powder contained Acesulfame Potassium. At this point they suddenly becaume extremely cooperative and would do anything I said, because they had already broken the law for not revealing the full list of ingredients.

Unfortunately, there are extremely few products still available that have no artificial sweeteners. To my knowledge, the only major protein powder in this category is Prolab N-Large2, which uses fructose only.


Eric
BC, Canada

 

[cockdezl]

Mmmmm, the opinions on this subject seem to be widely spread.
Thanks for the replies, guys and girls.

Cockdezl, you said:

>>>Methanol CAN BE liberated from aspartame, but the quantities are small enough that the human body can handle it. Martini and Gold have jumped on the fact of methanol's presence, the fact that it is a toxin, but conveniently disregarded the fact that the human body CAN deal with small amounts of various poisons.

>>>They have no understanding of a tenet of pharmacology/toxicology, "a poison is defined by the dose".

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However, the toxicity of methanol is eliminated by ethanol, which is the main constituent of Martini and Gold. Even by MD's, methanol poisoning is treated by alcohol.

Again Martini and Gold have little understanding of human physiology. It has been shown that fruit juices often contain detectable levels of methanol from microbial fermentation. Anti-Nutrasweet advocates have countered by making the same statement that you make, which is that ethanol is present which is a competitor for alcohol dehydrogenase and is the treatment for methanol poisoning in the clinical setting.

The problem with their argument is that they are extrapolating from clinical cases, which are examples of considerable methanol ingestion, 1000's of times more than what is produced with aspartame. Also, they don't realise that alcohols (ethanol) are produced in the intestines from microbial metabolism of ingested carbohydrates. So there is usually a low basal level of simple alcohols being metabolized in the liver from microbial metabolism.