asking for 2nd cycle suggestions please

[stevesmi]

would appreciate some advice for a 2nd cycle I am starting to plan.

let me tell you about me. I'm 30.. been pumping for 12 years off and on.. the past 3 years I have been ON and specifically the past year I have been very dedicated to the gym 5-6X a week. I decided to try my first ever cycle starting last Dec to shoot me to the next level. WAS 5' 6" 155 pounds 9% bf. benching 245 pounds max.

did 8 week cycle of deca 400/week.. stacked with 9 week cycle of sustanon 500/week .. and 6 weeks of Dbol just 15-20mg/day (dont want to mess up my liver), tons of water and tons of food. zero junk food. I would guestimate 100-120 grams protein and probably 6-8 meals a day

I went to 184 pounds 14% bf and bench maxing 295 pounds ... specifically my sex drive was thru the roof and I was noticing a pump when i worked out and an animal like attitude in the gym at 6am.

PCT I am currently on nolva for 4 weeks and have dropped down to 178, 12% bf and still maxing 285.. so I am pretty pleased with my strength gains but not too thrilled with my body in terms of being as cut as I would like cause I think I was a bit on the bloated side.

anyway I am wondering all that aside what a good 2nd cycle is.. I plan on waiting 10 weeks and then starting it. I have read that primo and sust are bad stacked together. but I also read that primo is better then deca when it comes to keeping gains.

should I do deca and sust again? up the dosages a bit? or should i try a diff stack this time.

I plan on really dedicating myself even more then before this time around so I want to make sure I am on the best possible stack and not waste this opportunity. please give me some suggestions, thanks a lot.

 

[goal245]

if your diet only had 100-120 grams of protein a day then you need to seriously rethink your diet. You should shoot for 2grams of protein per pound of body weight. since you way about 180 you should be getting around 350 grams of protein per day.

I would just do the same cycle again with a better diet and you will gain lots of muscle mass.

 

[stevesmi]

yes my protein was a bit low.. that was one of my mistakes of my first cycle which I definately learned from and will correct next time. so you say same cycle but should I up the deca or sust? I don't plan on doing dbol this time (simply cause its an oral and its tough on the liver) should i re-consider that choice?

another mistake i think i made was I worked out TOO much. during the month of december I worked out everyday, only taking off Xmas. I didn't give my body a chance to recover

 

[GrowingUp]

Personally I would stick with another Nandrolone cycle. I like the stack of human grade Test-E with NPP. I would add in Proviron to increase the effectiveness of your Test, and to give your libido even more of a kick. And definitely the addition of HCG twice a week thoughout your cycle. I would make it at least a 12 week cycle. PCT, I like the combo of Clomid/Nolva/Aromasin. If you would like to cut at the end, the addition of Winstrol for the last 6 weeks would work well.

 

[goal245]

you dont need to up the dosage yet, 500 test and 400 deca /week will be good. You can add an oral in the beginning, it wont give your liver too much stress if ran for 4 weeks and at reasonable doses. As said before make the cycle 12 weeks, 10 weeks of deca and 12 weeks of test.

 

[stevesmi]

thanks guys.

anyone else have any suggestions before I order?

 

[RADAR]

if your diet only had 100-120 grams of protein a day then you need to seriously rethink your diet. You should shoot for 2grams of protein per pound of body weight. since you way about 180 you should be getting around 350 grams of protein per day.

I would just do the same cycle again with a better diet and you will gain lots of muscle mass.

Ditto!

RADAR

 

[stevesmi]

okay sounds like I am gonna go with the same stack but take more protein.

now as far as the PCT. I am thinking about Clomid and Nolvadex this time.. instead of just the nolv as I am doing now. what is a good strategy with those?

i've read 20mg a day of nolv should be good for 4 weeks but since I am gonna be doing a full 12 weeks of sustanon should I do more? and should I also take Clomid?