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The Shadow
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Vick throws for 300+ 2 TD no picks and runs for another
Faclons lose....
why??
Lack of a defense.
Faclons lose....
why??
Lack of a defense.
wayneboard1
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The Shadow said:
Because the falcons used all their money to get vick, and have no money left over to get anyone else to help him. They are Vick and the rest of the guys, not a team.
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wayneboard1 said:
You cant say that when Atlanta leads the league in rushing.....
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Vick has 17 yards rushing today.....nice try but no
ATlanta runs up 27 against the leagues 2nd best defense(total yards) and still cant win
ATlanta runs up 27 against the leagues 2nd best defense(total yards) and still cant win
wayneboard1
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The Shadow said:
Actually I can. There is more to a team that a few players and thats all that atlanta has. COmbine that with the inability to start off strong they fall behind and can't gain enough ground to come back and win. They have a franchise player and thats about it. Granted he is VERY good and has gotten them VERY far, but they don't have enough to win it all or even make the 2nd round of the playoffs.
gotmilk
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Just like the Chiefs the last 3 years. WTF? Fuck you Shadow!
wayneboard1
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redguru said:
Well....I can relate being a diehard bronco fan since I was just a little colt.
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gjohnson5 said:
not the issue as no one is saying that
The flack about Vick is that he was running too much and not being a pocket passer....
So, now he is doing a much better job by hanging in and completing passes and Atlanta still isnt winning?
Why??
It has nothing to do with Vick and passing ability....its that Atlanta cant stop the run and team defense is pathetic......giving up THIRTY to the Bucs??
C'Mon
silverbackn
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Go Chargers! They have lost 4 games by a total of 12 points. If they ever learn how to win a close game they will be dangerous. LT and Gates are ridiculous, Brees is solid.
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KillahBee said:
yes... Vick fumbled because Warrick Dunn was trying to block a pass rusher and he actually hit the ball and knocked it loose
but Atlanta missed a FG to tie as well.......
You cant give up 30 to the Bucs......thats pathetic
gjohnson5
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The Shadow said:
Well what you're missing is that peyton manning does more then stay in the pocket. he finds recievers the moment they are open and there's almost always a perfect pass to them. Vick doesn't have the accuracy , nor does he have the ability to read defenses such as Payton Manning.
Indy's defense is worse then Atlanta's but they are undefeated...
gjohnson5
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The Shadow said:
I'm in total agreement...
Offense sells tickets but defense wins championships
-- John Madden
But when you don't have the defensive personel to shut teams out such as that Superbowl Tampa Bay defense a few years back, then you have to find ways to win with the team you have on the field...
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gjohnson5 said:
...its b/c they have had the leagues easiest schedule thus far
but you are right - Atlanta doesnt have any wideouts that can GET open
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gjohnson5 said:
btw - are you on crack??
Indy has the SECOND BEST d as far as ppg are concerned.
Atlanta is 19th.
as far as strength of schedule is concerned...its al over Fox sports homepage in their power rankings...
Do some research instead of Vick hating
LMAO
gjohnson5
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The Shadow said:
I love Vick dude...
He still needs to work on reading Defenses and passing accuracy. As one said, he can launch some bombs
Considering Peyton manning is so efficient, it takes alot of pressure off the defense. Atlanta doesn't have that luxury. Don't be fooled by the stats, Indy's defense isn't that good. They gave up 37 to Cinci. Thier next few games will be challenging and you'll see more points scored on them
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