aromasin,raloxifen and increase in prolactin

[bowly]

hi greetings everyone

had a change in diet in jan,bulk diet with gvt training..gained 3kgs

then my trainer changed the diet to a high fat low carb diet with hiit training.resulting in gyno

was on no gear,,,only grenade fat burner with omega3 empty stomach,,and jacked pre workout..

went on ralox and exemestane and got rid of the gyno nearly with a hazy effect still left on right nipples..currently on 90ralox and exemestane25mg

did a blood check and prolactin is really high though I get a boner every morning..i wonder whats amiss here since high prl is supposed to suppresss the libido..

my hair has started thinning,,how do I control the prl as I still have few weeks to go before I can completely eliminate the balance gyno

help please

 

[northernknight]

Caber @ 0.25-0.5 mg twice a week should take care of it. Other option is Prami or even Bromocriptine, but I would definitely go with Cabergoline (Dostinex), two others that I mentioned will likely give rather nasty sides to many.

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[northernknight]

Though, you should find out what caused the increase in your prolactin and gyno development in the first place, and take care of the root of your problem. I can't find any obvious reason for it from your post, hopefully someone else with more experience will chime in. Was Ralox a SERM or do I remember incorrectly?

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[WolfpackAlpha]

hi greetings everyone

had a change in diet in jan,bulk diet with gvt training..gained 3kgs

then my trainer changed the diet to a high fat low carb diet with hiit training.resulting in gyno

was on no gear,,,only grenade fat burner with omega3 empty stomach,,and jacked pre workout..

went on ralox and exemestane and got rid of the gyno nearly with a hazy effect still left on right nipples..currently on 90ralox and exemestane25mg

did a blood check and prolactin is really high though I get a boner every morning..i wonder whats amiss here since high prl is supposed to suppresss the libido..

my hair has started thinning,,how do I control the prl as I still have few weeks to go before I can completely eliminate the balance gyno

help please

Try switching to a letrozole+dostinex(cabergoline) mix and see how that goes.

 

[bowly]

Try switching to a letrozole+dostinex(cabergoline) mix and see how that goes.

thnk you wolfpack but it almost gone..one more week and I should be done with the gyno..so letro wont matter much..dostinex ,yes for the prolactin

estro is 27- range 7.6-42.6
prolactin 34.4 range 4-15.2

I read somewhere there prl and estr are like two sides of a sea saw..one falls and the other goes up and vice versa..have seen my and results of people where estro goes down with an equal rise in prl..how does this work because I believed that both rise together..

this is the second time I have gyno due to diet issues alone..a year back it was erratic eating and increase in fat percentage that caused a surge in estro resulting in gyno...and this time even under guidance from reputed trainers I developed gyno..don't know what to blame..the bulk diet or the high fat diet..

but lately I have been getting boners every morn without fail..is my estro n prolactin reduced and reached a sweet spot with continuous use of aromasin n raloxifen

what do I expect from caber..because every benefit from reduced prl will also have its downfall

 

[bowly]

Though, you should find out what caused the increase in your prolactin and gyno development in the first place, and take care of the root of your problem. I can't find any obvious reason for it from your post, hopefully someone else with more experience will chime in. Was Ralox a SERM or do I remember incorrectly?

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yes ralox is a serm and a very good one..has good effects on lipids,bone density(imp when using aromasin) etc

I was looking at something that does not play around with other hormones and cause a new issue..is caber free of altering other hormones

 

[northernknight]

yes ralox is a serm and a very good one..has good effects on lipids,bone density(imp when using aromasin) etc

I was looking at something that does not play around with other hormones and cause a new issue..is caber free of altering other hormones

Yea, I remember reading about it Ralox a while ago, and it seemed like like something to have at hand if needed.
Caber is a nootropic/Dopamine agonist, meaning it works by releasing Dopamine, so it shouldn't have effect of your hormones in any negative way. I think the only hormonal effect caused straight from it is reduced Prolactin, and even that is through release of Dopamine. Propably all effects of Caber are more or less related to Dopamine release i.e. feeling of well being, better quality of sleep, better sex life (bc of decrease in Prolactin), and some other rather positive effects. As nootropic it can help to increase learning skils, which makes it a very intresting drug (to me at least), and increases it's usefullness to other things then Prolactin control.
So you should be OK to take it, but if you are taking any RX drugs just make sure that there are at least no major, hopefully even no minor, interactions with Caborgoline.
I hope you will be fine just by running just Caber from here, since you have already been taking an AI and SERM for your gyno with good results, but if it flairs up again, you should start Letrozole as an AI immidiately with Caber added (and a SERM if you want, but with Letro, it's propably not needed). Letro really sucks (I personally hate that stuff!), but it really is the gyno-killer!

This helps, and good luck, Bro!

 

[bowly]

don't caber cause heart valve damage n fibrosis..at what doses does this happen

Yea, I remember reading about it Ralox a while ago, and it seemed like like something to have at hand if needed.
Caber is a nootropic/Dopamine agonist, meaning it works by releasing Dopamine, so it shouldn't have effect of your hormones in any negative way. I think the only hormonal effect caused straight from it is reduced Prolactin, and even that is through release of Dopamine. Propably all effects of Caber are more or less related to Dopamine release i.e. feeling of well being, better quality of sleep, better sex life (bc of decrease in Prolactin), and some other rather positive effects. As nootropic it can help to increase learning skils, which makes it a very intresting drug (to me at least), and increases it's usefullness to other things then Prolactin control.
So you should be OK to take it, but if you are taking any RX drugs just make sure that there are at least no major, hopefully even no minor, interactions with Caborgoline.
I hope you will be fine just by running just Caber from here, since you have already been taking an AI and SERM for your gyno with good results, but if it flairs up again, you should start Letrozole as an AI immidiately with Caber added (and a SERM if you want, but with Letro, it's propably not needed). Letro really sucks (I personally hate that stuff!), but it really is the gyno-killer!

This helps, and good luck, Bro!