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Arnold's Encyclopedia

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Who's read the book?

I really wanna get it cause someone suggested it to me. Anyone know where I can get it from?

-sk
 
It goes for 25.00 USD and could be found in most book stores..

Actually, I had problems finding stores which had it in stock, such as Barns & Noble, .. turned out this little tiny book store a few blocks from my home had three copies :)

I love this book and the pictures are worth the money alone..
 
just go online and get it. I have his older book, and the workouts are crazy in there. You would have to be on the juice for those workouts to work effectively. He does hardcore chest and back on MWF. How could any natural bodybuilder recover from that?
 
I got mine at Boarders... talks about alot of interesting things, but I would never use it for serious training advice... too bad it doesn't mention the old school cycles... I'd be interested to know what they took back then

C-ditty
 
I got mine on Ebay for $10 US!!! It was in mint condition and the best investment i've ever made!!! I actually was looking at some pictures tonight from the book to get motivated for my workout tonight!!!
 
Summary

Interesting read as far BB progressions and the great ones through the years. Lots if good pics and bios and lots of areas covered A - Z. But his trainng methods recomended are absurd, even with use of heavy doses of AS. He's also a straight up hypocrite (spelling?) as far as denouncong steroid use. Overall though a great book to have on your BB library. Unfortunately I must once again critisice Arnold. I cannot respect him. No offense to his fans (lots on this board). The man is not god.
 
Re: Summary

slyder190 said:
Interesting read as far BB progressions and the great ones through the years. Lots if good pics and bios and lots of areas covered A - Z. But his trainng methods recomended are absurd, even with use of heavy doses of AS. He's also a straight up hypocrite (spelling?) as far as denouncong steroid use. Overall though a great book to have on your BB library. Unfortunately I must once again critisice Arnold. I cannot respect him. No offense to his fans (lots on this board). The man is not god.

You have to respect a self-made man like that. Every goal he set for himself he achieved.
 
True...

I should've said that I do respect many of his accomplishments, my bad. But...overall, he's a lying hypocrite, so, I can't fully respect him.
 
hey i love arnold dont get me wrong, i like the encyclopedia too. But saying he is a self-made man isnt totally right. When it came to training, yes, he made himself the best, but he was a millionaire by age 20, and he and franco(also one of my faves) had a brick laying company. I know weider gave arnold most of what he had at that time, arnold made a great body, not his millions, weider helped with that. Weider also helped with arnolds acting career, getting him his first role. And dont forget, weider dumped dave draper for arnold, because dave wasnt Charasmatic enough.....we all know arnold was!-WULF
 
Is isn't exactlty accurate about Weider and Arnold.

First of all, Arnold had a HUGE advantage in the genetics department. He simply followed his path. (Which I respect)

He was not a millionaire by age 20. The construction work was a chump change business to put some extra cash in their pockets while they did nothing but train and show up for photo sessions for the mags.

Weider gave him the publicity, but very little money.(Same with Draper) But Arnold was shrewd enough to use it as a stepping stone. Draper, on the other hand, wasn't interested much in promoting himself. Too bad. He had "the look" -- more so than Arnold.

Weider had nothing to do with Arnold getting into acting except that Joe was a mentor to Arnold. He had this uncular/parental personality that some guys resented but Arnold took into consideration. Again, very smart since Joe knew how to make money. Instead of resisting it, he embraced it.

Arnold was also lucky. Had it not been for "Conan", he may not have gotten the role as the Terminator and if that didn't happen it's most probable that guys on this board today would be saying "Does anybody remember a guy from the 70's called Arnold something?"
 
Well arnold did get his gig in Hercules in New York because weider told the director arnold was a big star in another country. Also i am sure arnold and franco didnt have the money to front a brick laying business by themselves, and weider supported them a while while it took off. Arnold had connections through weider, and there is not much doubt about that. He is one of the people who inspired me to start training, and was a great bodybuilder, but he didnt do it alone.-WULF
 
Re: Summary

slyder190 said:
Interesting read as far BB progressions and the great ones through the years. Lots if good pics and bios and lots of areas covered A - Z. But his trainng methods recomended are absurd, even with use of heavy doses of AS. He's also a straight up hypocrite (spelling?) as far as denouncong steroid use. Overall though a great book to have on your BB library. Unfortunately I must once again critisice Arnold. I cannot respect him. No offense to his fans (lots on this board). The man is not god.


Are you calling Arnold a hypocrit because he denies AS use? I know for one that I dont openly tell just anyone about my use. Those who are into bodybuilding etc just know. the rest of the general public can fuck off. It's a brotherhood and those in the in are in and those outside will never know how hard we work to look the way we do. We let them know we take AS and they instantly attribute all our hard work to the drugs not our traaining and sacrafices. We all know arnold juiced. We all want to know what he used but in my opinion why would he say. In the public eye it makes him look bad.
 
Wulf: Come on! Landing the role in "Hercules in New York" didn't exacly take major connections! I doubt Arnold even made scale.

A bricklaying business that consists of 2 guys does not take major funding. Arnold admitted he and Franco just went around to peoples houses offering free inspections, then puched holes in the roofs and offered to fix them.

And as a a matter of fact, Arnold admitted publically on the Letterman show that he did steroids but I'm sure the publishers of the book weren't going to let that through.

I seriously doubt Arnold wrote much of that book himself.
 
Nelson Montana said:
And as a a matter of fact, Arnold admitted publically on the Letterman show that he did steroids but I'm sure the publishers of the book weren't going to let that through.

He admited a few times to primo and dbol ...

He says he is against the anabolics in the book for obvious reasons ...

-sk
 
Nelson, you have to remember most people didnt even know who arnold was, Mr. Olympia was not a title that many people in the world knew about in the 70's(or even nowadays for that matter) so that certainly didnt put him in the public eye. Charles gaines helped with his book and later movie "pumping iron", but it still didnt make arnold a star. Also arnold and franco were contracted by weider, and weider gave them protein, living quarters, and juice i am sure, so he could make money off of their physiques. He wanted to bring lou ferrigno to california as well, but his abusive father wouldnt let him leave(he was trying to fulfill his dreams through louie). Remember, weider probably didnt have huge connections in the movie biz, but arnold certainly didnt, being only a bodybuilding champion. Remember, this is the day of Twiggy, the stick like model, not muscles. I still watch arnolds movies and read the encyclopedia, but i say again arnold was joe weiders pride and joy, and he helped him fulfill his dreams any way he could.-WULF
 
Without a doubt, Weider was instrumental in Arnolds success. But a studio apartment, and free supplements are hardly a pinch for a mega millionaire. The difference with Arnold and the others was that Arnold wasn't spoiled. He saw it as a great opportunity. All the other guys were bitching that Weider was a cheap fuck.

Arnold got the part in Hercules because he wanted it, because was the biggest guy around, and because he was willing to work for peanuts. But it was Punping Iron that made Arnold, no doubt about it. He became an instant celebrity, but probably would have faded had it not been for Conan. He STILL would have been a has-been if he turned down the part in Terminator. (Which he was ready to do, when he lost the lead role ) And well, the rest is history.

Interestingly enough, Weider remained a mentor to Arnold and convinced him thet the part of a robot with 5 lines was good career move. Unbelievable.
 
Well Nelson, we are getting closer, but i understood that arnold had the choice of either playing the good role or the bad in Terminator, and chose the bad role(due to poor acting skills at the time?) but regardless he made the right choice, and we have gotten to see his charisma and comedy in many movies since. Too bad the action film genre is almost dead, it is dead for anybody except arnold, he can make it pull in at least moderate amounts of money. The best movies of all time, IMHO came out of the 80's, sure Van Damme, Stallone, and arnold made corny movies, but at least they were fun to watch. No im not much for teen movies, or lovey dovey movies, or comic book heroes that i looked up to as a child being played in new movies by guys with the muscularity of broomsticks. Now arnold is the only one with a snowballs chance in hell to make an action movie and get it to theaters. T3 should be a fair his for the oak, and i hope it is, these pussy actors who's dad is the director or another actor make me sick......-WULF
 
Nelson Montana said:
Without a doubt, Weider was instrumental in Arnolds success. But a studio apartment, and free supplements are hardly a pinch for a mega millionaire. The difference with Arnold and the others was that Arnold wasn't spoiled. He saw it as a great opportunity. All the other guys were bitching that Weider was a cheap fuck.

Arnold got the part in Hercules because he wanted it, because was the biggest guy around, and because he was willing to work for peanuts. But it was Punping Iron that made Arnold, no doubt about it. He became an instant celebrity, but probably would have faded had it not been for Conan. He STILL would have been a has-been if he turned down the part in Terminator. (Which he was ready to do, when he lost the lead role ) And well, the rest is history.

Interestingly enough, Weider remained a mentor to Arnold and convinced him thet the part of a robot with 5 lines was good career move. Unbelievable.

Strange how things work out.
 
You better have more than one copy, so you can keep one yourself.....or we will have to get a mod to ban u......:D -WULF
 
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