Arnold and D-bol

[ericahls]

Back when I was a teenager I got a copy of the “Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding” by Arnold Schwarzenegger. In the back it had a brief section on his steroid use. I can’t remember exactly but I thought that he said that you needed 200/mg day of Dbol to make a difference. Anyone with a copy of the 1985 release, would you please confirm this.

 

[poantrex]

Back when I was a teenager I got a copy of the “Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding” by Arnold Schwarzenegger. In the back it had a brief section on his steroid use. I can’t remember exactly but I thought that he said that you needed 200/mg day of Dbol to make a difference. Anyone with a copy of the 1985 release, would you please confirm this.

So he was saying that you need a liver transplant?

 

[ericahls]

So he was saying that you need a liver transplant?

Yea that's the point. If he and is gang were taking that much then way haven’t there been any reports of them having liver damage.?

 

[shortstack]

bump, this is interesting

 

[marshallmadman]

I know Dale Ruplinger took a whole bottle. I don't know if it was on a dare, or he did it daily. Here I am worried about the effects of 50mg. of winstrol. DUH!

 

[cryptkeeper]

i think this is a huge miscalculation. i remember reading that section and he was actually quie conservative with his doses. i remember him mentioning 200mg deca somewhere in there..

 

[theironclan]

bump, this is interesting

Yes.

 

[ericahls]

i think this is a huge miscalculation. i remember reading that section and he was actually quie conservative with his doses. i remember him mentioning 200mg deca somewhere in there..

No. I know it was D-bol for sure. I didn't know anything about steroids then. But I do remember that it was oral and D-bol. The breakfast of champions.

 

[jonny jacked]

Directly quoted out of the book:

'With oral steroids like Dianabol, which have such short life spans, when you take a 200mg dose the liver destroys the entire 200mg in one day, which puts a tremendous strain on your liver funtion'

this exerpt was in the section titled "steroids and the Liver" discussing the effects of both orals and injectables and their strain on the body.

He was not advocating the use of 200mg of d-bol per day, rather he was discussing the elimination times of orals verses injectables and used 200mg for the example he stated.

 

[help4john]

....but did Arnold use that much? I always thought, like mentioned above, he was rather conservative. Thought I read somewhere that he liked DBOL (~50mgED) and primo (~400-600mg EW)?

 

[ericahls]

Directly quoted out of the book:

'With oral steroids like Dianabol, which have such short life spans, when you take a 200mg dose the liver destroys the entire 200mg in one day, which puts a tremendous strain on your liver funtion'

this exerpt was in the section titled "steroids and the Liver" discussing the effects of both orals and injectables and their strain on the body.

He was not advocating the use of 200mg of d-bol per day, rather he was discussing the elimination times of orals verses injectables and used 200mg for the example he stated.

Thanks for the info

 

[poantrex]

i think this is a huge miscalculation. i remember reading that section and he was actually quie conservative with his doses. i remember him mentioning 200mg deca somewhere in there..

Conservative, LOL. Thats a bunch of bullshit. The doses he took terrified other bodybuilders - I can't remember where but there have been interviews with those that knew and trained with him (I think his unofficial biography??) but he took huge doses of everything he could get his hands on. Make no mistake, the bodybuilders back then abused the sauce just like it gets abused now. If he said otherwise in his encyclopedia, he lied to make himself look good.

I donn't know where the misconception that those guys didn't use much came from - thats a bunch of shit! Another example - Mike Mentzer used up to 2250 (m)grams of nandrolone a week with a ton of dbol and other orals. Obviously, thats not light usage.

 

[fergie]

i think this is a huge miscalculation. i remember reading that section and he was actually quie conservative with his doses. i remember him mentioning 200mg deca somewhere in there..

really... I remember reading once that he toke obcene amounts of halo, just can't remember how much lol

 

[BOOEY]

Arnold always used to say he was willing to do whatever it took to be the best and stay the best. I'm sure he used more than most people would like to think

 

[LVTitan]

yeah i have the 1988 version and all it says is" with prolonged use of high dosages, especially with oral steroids, there can be progressive cholestasis and jaundice, hemorrhaging, and even the possibility of iver cancer."

 

[roidpuple]

Conservative, LOL. Thats a bunch of bullshit. The doses he took terrified other bodybuilders - I can't remember where but there have been interviews with those that knew and trained with him (I think his unofficial biography??) but he took huge doses of everything he could get his hands on. Make no mistake, the bodybuilders back then abused the sauce just like it gets abused now. If he said otherwise in his encyclopedia, he lied to make himself look good.

I donn't know where the misconception that those guys didn't use much came from - thats a bunch of shit! Another example - Mike Mentzer used up to 2250 grams of nandrolone a week with a ton of dbol and other orals. Obviously, thats not light usage.

where did you read this?? the dosages of Mentzer??

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

where did you read this?? the dosages of Mentzer??

True dat,
I have the 1998-9 edition and he DOES NOT admit to using once...it's brought up in a section called "The dangers of steroids" or sumthin like that...As time passes so does his memory of exactly what and how much he took

 

[blut wump]

True dat,
I have the 1998-9 edition and he DOES NOT admit to using once...it's brought up in a section called "The dangers of steroids" or sumthin like that...As time passes so does his memory of exactly what and how much he took

Looks like long-term memory disfunction is yet another hazard. *sigh*.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Looks like long-term memory disfunction is yet another hazard. *sigh*.

"Kalyforeniia"

 

[bicepts101]

i definatly beleive arnold abused the drugs....

 

[massatronic]

Yea that's the point. If he and is gang were taking that much then way haven’t there been any reports of them having liver damage.?

Mentzer and his bro died young in pretty dodge circumstances (RIP), Arnie had those 'birth defect' herat problems... what about Serge Nubret and Lou F have they had any sort of scares?

Breakfat of Champs. That phrase just makes me want to knock back the pink ones!

 

[AnabolicSA]

i definatly beleive arnold abused the drugs....

Absolutely truth....and back in the 60's Sergio Oliva didnt need to take those mega dose and always he was bigger than Arnold

 

[pursuit]

Sure it wasn't 200mg per week?

 

[PURE EXTRACT]

lol nah man. I'm sure they meant 200mg/ed
No matter how much we all talk about it, we'll never know exactly what was going on back then. This is ALL hear say