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[AztecWarrior]

I'm going to pick Pavlik in this fight. I don't think Williams is as good as Taylor, who Pavlik dismantled with ease. I also think Williams is not a natural middleweight and Pavlik will be the bigger man. I also don't think Williams has the power to hurt Pavlik. He tends to cuff his punches a bit, rather than snap at full extention, which hurts his power.

He does throw pat punches to to score on the score cards. I could be wrong and palvik can win the fight but williams isn't no pushover. He's a lot tougher then people think. There is a reason why he so avoided and had to go up in weight to fight for a championship. He could be the new hearns. On paper palvik shouldn't be able to win in this fight. Palvik is going to have one big advantage that he likes to use and that's his height and reach. He'll have to find his way in and not to many counters will be offered to him...he's to fast anyways for him. I like Palvik, but he made a mistake by picking paul right out of the gate of regaining the spotlight again. He has a lot to win and lose. I don't see why he just didn't fight mora and get one more win before going after a top guy. Something tells me he's not the same just like cotto. I feel it.

 

[AztecWarrior]

I want to see some ko's!

 

[AztecWarrior]

 

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I miss ArmyVet. Get in here bro!

 

[AztecWarrior]

I miss ArmyVet. Get in here bro!

He needs to tell his wife to take his leash off. He's needed here on valued boxing threads. I don't want to be stuck talking to Pick3, who knows nothing about boxing.

 

[needtogetarmy]

pavlik>williams
pacman>cotto

I agree.

Sorry to be late in replying to this. I have been away. Just busy. I love it here just had other shit going on.

IMO Cotto lost some of his mojo in the Margarito fight. It showed really bad in this last fight. I think Manny has a better trainer, a much better chin, more speed and maybe more power than Cotto. Plus Cotto is not running at full speed now. Plus, his is in between trainers and has lots of shit going on in his life.

If Cotto comes in like he did for his last fight I predict Manny by KO.

As for Pavlik and Williams, I really like Williams as a fighter but he has not been tested at 160. His win over Winky was good but Winky was coming off a very long lay-off and Winky is no longer in his prime.

I think Williams has better endurance and maybe more speed but Pavlik has stronger punches and I think he has the edge in this. Pavliks loss to Hopkins occurred due to injuries and the flu. He wasn't throwing his jab and it was obvious something was wrong in that fight. I am not taking the win from Hopkins. He is an ATG, but IMO the fight would have been closer if Pavlik was operating at 100%. Pavlik still lost and there are really no excuses for a loss but it is important to look at everything in its context.

I do think Williams can outwork Pavlik but Williams does not use his height. He is tall and hunches down and does not throw long punches. Pavlik does. IMO if Pavlik stays on the outside with the jab the fight will be in his favor.

Also recognize there is a big difference between a 6'1" Williams beating up short guys at 147 and beating up a taller fighter with a longer reach (with more power) at 160. I do think it will be an interesting fight.

 

[AztecWarrior]

I agree.

Sorry to be late in replying to this. I have been away. Just busy. I love it here just had other shit going on.

IMO Cotto lost some of his mojo in the Margarito fight. It showed really bad in this last fight. I think Manny has a better trainer, a much better chin, more speed and maybe more power than Cotto. Plus Cotto is not running at full speed now. Plus, his is in between trainers and has lots of shit going on in his life.

If Cotto comes in like he did for his last fight I predict Manny by KO.

As for Pavlik and Williams, I really like Williams as a fighter but he has not been tested at 160. His win over Winky was good but Winky was coming off a very long lay-off and Winky is no longer in his prime.

I think Williams has better endurance and maybe more speed but Pavlik has stronger punches and I think he has the edge in this. Pavliks loss to Hopkins occurred due to injuries and the flu. He wasn't throwing his jab and it was obvious something was wrong in that fight. I am not taking the win from Hopkins. He is an ATG, but IMO the fight would have been closer if Pavlik was operating at 100%. Pavlik still lost and there are really no excuses for a loss but it is important to look at everything in its context.

I do think Williams can outwork Pavlik but Williams does not use his height. He is tall and hunches down and does not throw long punches. Pavlik does. IMO if Pavlik stays on the outside with the jab the fight will be in his favor.

Also recognize there is a big difference between a 6'1" Williams beating up short guys at 147 and beating up a taller fighter with a longer reach (with more power) at 160. I do think it will be an interesting fight.

Good points. Still favor paul more. I think he'll do just enough to pull off the win and because he's facing a power puncher, he's going to be foreced into fighting more smart. I give props to palvik for taking such a hard fight.

 

[needtogetarmy]

Good points. Still favor paul more. I think he'll do just enough to pull off the win and because he's facing a power puncher, he's going to be foreced into fighting more smart. I give props to palvik for taking such a hard fight.

I am happy Pavlik stepped up to the plate too. He better bring his game! IMO if Williams wins this will be a very big win for him. I saw his bio on HBO and it was a good one. He is a class A fighter and a class A human being. So is Pavlik. It is hard sometimes watching two good guys fight each other. Say unlike Mayweather who I want to see get beaten into a bloody pulp. lol

 

[AztecWarrior]

I am happy Pavlik stepped up to the plate too. He better bring his game! IMO if Williams wins this will be a very big win for him. I saw his bio on HBO and it was a good one. He is a class A fighter and a class A human being. So is Pavlik. It is hard sometimes watching two good guys fight each other. Say unlike Mayweather who I want to see get beaten into a bloody pulp. lol

I'd love to see pac do it w/ a body punch up agianst the ropes. How sweet that would be.

 

[AztecWarrior]

The real shame is Palvik and Bute aren't included in the supermiddle tourment. Would of made things a lot more interesting.